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Vanity-Personal survey on dirty tricks. What is your limit on what Cruz could do to Hillary?

Posted on 02/07/2016 11:57:50 AM PST by Cats Pajamas

Just trying to get a feel on what conservatives would consider as Cruz crossing the line in a match up during the general election with Hillary. Keep in mind past history of the Clinton family of course and how fair they play.


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Something Rush said on Friday stuck with me. He said this is what politics is. I am wondering do people really expect Clinton to play fair during the election cycle, be on her best behavior? What exactly is her best behavior? Our guy is supposed to be the gentleman abiding the rules while this hack witch pulls the entire Alinsky playbook and gets blanket cover from media and her one brain cell voters?
1 posted on 02/07/2016 11:57:50 AM PST by Cats Pajamas
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To: Cats Pajamas

Nothing. Zilch. Zip.

We need somebody on our side who doesn’t play be Queensberry rules because the other side sure doesn’t.

To me, that leaves two options: Cruz and Trump.

Hey Cruzers and Trumpsters (I’ve been both, nominally more Trumpster right now), save your vitriol for the REAL enemy, PLEASE!!!


2 posted on 02/07/2016 12:01:29 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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3 posted on 02/07/2016 12:02:40 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Shorter of a felony nothing


4 posted on 02/07/2016 12:04:37 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Trump is the only one the Wicked -itch is afraid of. Trump would fight fire with more fire.


5 posted on 02/07/2016 12:04:47 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Cats Pajamas
Excellent point and we will have to see as how this would apply to any GOP nominee! History would indicate that dirty tricks is fourth in the Clinton tool chest, right after 'Old News', misdefining language, and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!) It is only fourth because the Clintons / Democrats / Liberals / Leftists KNOW that the MSM are fellow travelers and working for them to cover and abet their efforts.
6 posted on 02/07/2016 12:09:03 PM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: piytar

THIS!!!!!


7 posted on 02/07/2016 12:13:08 PM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Unfortunately, with the Dems/Libs/Progs & especially the Clinton Crime Family, it boils down to “win ugly or lose graciously”. In the Clinton’s case, telling the truth is pretty darn damaging ... the Repub candidates just need to take off the gloves and punch hard - tell the truth, not dance all around it and let Hilly obfuscate and lie.

One example that causes me to do a slow burn (not ‘Bern’ ha ha) is when Hilly is asked about her emails. She generally starts up with how she testified 11 hours before the Benghazi committee and there was no “there there”. Well, the Benghazi committee was NOT about her email situation, it was about the 4 people who died, lack of security, leaving them to die, etc. She repeatedly brings up her testimony as taking her off the hook and proving there was nothing found regarding the emails. She needs to be called out and pinned down on this .... but I will concede, it’s pretty hard to pin down someone as slippery as eel snot.


8 posted on 02/07/2016 12:16:21 PM PST by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: laplata

Yes, we don’t need to be polite this time out. We are going to have to get down in the gutter with them and slug,slash, and trash them to the degree that they are willing to back down.

Killery’s laundry list of felonies is longer than my arm in a 10 font, single spaced.

As you say..fight fire, with more fire.


9 posted on 02/07/2016 12:22:57 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Nothing in her background is off limits. Younger generations need to be informed about her past. Trump showed how to do it when she brought up the subject of women. Trump lambasted her over her sexual predator husband.

She could not stand toe to toe on that.

That’s just for starters.


10 posted on 02/07/2016 12:23:13 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: Cats Pajamas

Challenge her to a duel in Ft. Marcy Park


11 posted on 02/07/2016 12:23:51 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

No quarter! This applies to any Republican nominee. That is why Willard failed, he didn’t go for the jugular.


12 posted on 02/07/2016 12:24:45 PM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: Cats Pajamas

“I don’t remember”, “ I can’t recall”, “I wasn’t informed” “Not that I know of”, “Can’t say that I did.” “No one told me.” “The right wing conspiracy is to blame.” “I was set up by the Republican right.” “I’m not to blame.” “The Republican Leadership caused all the problems.” etc.etc.etc.. Why would anyone, who doesn’t remember, is not informed, doesn’t understand the meaning of security, even consider themselves as qualified to lead a nation? My personal favorite is Hillary’s use of the “N” word when she was the 1st lady of Arkansas. I personally got it by hearsay, but I would considerate it true because of who told me. That was in 92’, I didn’t take names, but if Trump wanted to know where to look?


13 posted on 02/07/2016 12:27:25 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Just an old grumpy guy looking back in time, wondering WTF happened?)
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To: Cats Pajamas
I might draw the line at hanging her from a tree in a gunny sack and playing pinata with a ballbat.

Or not. Gotta think that one over.

14 posted on 02/07/2016 12:30:14 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Cats Pajamas

My limit is the same as Hillary’s tricks she’s played on us. There is no possible way Ted can exceed that numbed.


15 posted on 02/07/2016 12:31:52 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Cats Pajamas

Think Donald Segretti and the “RF.”

Just don’t get caught, this time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Segretti

All is fair in love, war and politics.


16 posted on 02/07/2016 12:33:06 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Cats Pajamas

Cruz has spoken.

NY SHOCK: Ted Cruz takes Bill Clinton off the table “He’s off limits” in his campaign
1 month ago Voltova Dmitri no Responses 2697 Views

New Years Day 2016

Ted Cruz issued a statement to reporters and fans, claiming that former President Bill Clinton, the spouse of Hillary Clinton (Democratic Front Runner and likely nominee) is completely “off limits.”

Cruz said he is trying to run an ethical campaign, but voters are not pleased that Cruz will not bring up the sordid past of the disgraced ex President who is facing a new round of sexual scandals.

Dallas News, a popular forum for politics in Texas reports:

Ted Cruz says he won’t use former President Bill Clinton’s political liabilities against Democratic presidential contender and former First Lady Hillary Clinton.

“I am not interested in getting into personal attacks and innuendo,” he said Tuesday at a news conference in Cisco. “Hillary Clinton’s biggest liability is that her policies are a disaster.”

New York businessman Donald Trump, the frontrunner in the Republican race for president, has used Twitter to black Bill Clinton as abusive to women.

“If Hillary thinks she can unleash her husband, with his terrible record of women abuse, while playing the women’s card on me, she’s wrong!” Mr. Trump said Monday via Twitter.

Cruz says he won’t engage in such attacks.

Instead, he outlined how he would contrast himself with Clinton, should he get the Republican nomination for president.

“Because of the Obama/Clinton economic policies, millions of Americans are hurting,” he said. “We have the lowest percentage of Americans working since 1977.”

He added that “the Obama/Clinton foreign policy is terrible because of the strengthening of Iran and the rise of the Islamic State.

“That is a record that is substantially indefensible,” he said.


17 posted on 02/07/2016 12:40:04 PM PST by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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To: Cats Pajamas

Drawing a mustache on Hillary’s grandchild. ;-)


18 posted on 02/07/2016 12:42:00 PM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: Ouderkirk

You are right as can be. And there is a huge supply of ammo to use against them, especially against Hitlery. The ammo is there for the picking.


19 posted on 02/07/2016 12:42:40 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Cruz is inherently limited by his own Christian ethical system. This is why, per Alinsky, the non-stop attack on him is to paint him as a liar. Attack a person on their strengths, not their weaknesses. This works for Alinsyites because they do not have to be truthful. So you take an honest person and defame them into the ground on the one thing that gives them strength with their constituency. That’s why the let gets away with this.

If we were to reverse this and apply it to Hillary, we would have real trouble. What is her greatest strength? She fulfills a mythology in the leftist psyche, the mark of real progress, throwing off the evil conservative patriarchy by being the first woman president. She has no need to protect her reputation for being honest or wise or anything else pertaining to character. She only needs to continue to be a woman and a liberal and the consummate victim seeking justice for the class she represents.

I’m not sure how one fights that kind of symbol. Detach the person from the symbol? Discredit what the symbol represents? If we are bound to be truthful, we have to work within that parameter. We have to persuade people that leftist utopianism and the progressive policy that supports it will disappoint every time it is tried. Younger people can be held captive to false idealism, but us older folks tend to be more pragmatic. That’s where I think her (and Bernie’s) weak underbelly is.

Now I don’t know what the ultimate strategy would look like. But I think we have to be realistic. We become them if we adopt Alinsky. Heads they win, tails we lose. We have to set different terms, terms in which character and truth still matter.

Peace,

SR


20 posted on 02/07/2016 12:45:13 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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