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Oregon Standoff: 'Patriots Network' Fails To Shut Down Protest, Four Resigned To Die In FBI Siege
2/6/2016 | Self

Posted on 02/06/2016 4:56:28 AM PST by Nextrush

"In the light of recent events that took place today and conversations with the FBI and the people at the refuge, we have decided to stand down our PPN Call to Action"

Pacific Patriots Network "OFFICIAL STAND DOWN" 2/5/2016

"When the night sky glows with the red fires of war and the threat of annihilation pounds at your door you don't have to pretend its true got no nerves of steel to believe that the Love of the Lord is actual and real in this world thunder rocks in the darkness Out in the eye of the storm the friends of God suffer no permanent harm"

Mark Heard-"Eye of the Storm"

The Pacific Patriots Network issued a 'stand down' order yesterday regarding a planned march into the Harney County Resource Center (Malheur National Wildlife Refuge) this morning.

"OregonLive" reporter Fedor Zarkharin wrote: ".....BJ Soper, a founding member of the Pacific Patriots Network, said the group was going to escort the holdouts from the refuge. But Soper learned that the occupiers said they were resigned to die and that attempts to remove them would be met by force..."

PPN is instead directing their volunteers that were enroute to Harney County, Oregon today to gather at the site of Robert LaVoy Finicum's death for a memorial.

The original intention of PPN was to take the four people inside the refuge out and effectively end the occupation of the refuge to protest the injustice done in the renewed imprisonment of Dwight and Stephen Hammond.

Ammon Bundy said in his statement from jail a few days ago that the occupation was the right thing to do and the folks left at the refuge are following their leader even though he is not with them.

This whole 'patriot' operation reminds me of history from 1962 in Albany, Georgia where Dr. Martin Luther was sitting in a jail, refusing to be bailed out. King needed to stay in jail to keep the protest movement of civil disobedience against racial segregation building and going forward.

The Kennedy Administration needed to short circuit his protest to please the white Democrats of Georgia. JFK needed to hold the Democrat Party together with a go slow on racial issues policy which MLK rejected.

First Kennedy used the host of NBC's "Meet the Press" who tried to lure Dr. King out of jail with an offer to be the guest.

When that failed a Justice Department official was sent to Albany where he 'anonymously' posted bail to undermine Dr. King's protest movement, which ended in failure.

I sincerely believe that the PPN group including Idaho III Percent and Oath Keepers were doing pretty much that kind of a job on the protest Ammon Bundy launched because of the injustice done in the return of Dwight and Steven Hammond to prison.

They said at the beginning they opposed the protest. Then they got emotional about FBI action at the refuge and showed up all militarized in a way Ammon Bundy, LaVoy Finicum and the others there weren't. Ammon Bundy sent them away but not after they put on a frightening show for the media to spread around the world.

The PPN people all along have been trying to hurt Ammon Bundy just like JFK tried to hurt MLK in the early 1960's. I think its because they are afraid of any conflict or violence in this situation will hurting the Republican Party and its unity.

The GOP candidates for president echoed the PPN position in opposing the occupation protest and calling for a stand down from its beginning.

Since the days of RIchard NixOn, the GOPe has put a lot of stock, now more than ever since 9/11, in the support of law enforcement organizations and unions, even ones whose members may be supporting tyranny like Oregon law enforcement is right now.

The Oregon State Sheriff's Association issued a statement yesterday to oppose any actions deemed 'illegal' as a means of protest.

The statement reads in part:

"These militia men and women have broken into publicly owned buildings, disrespected Native American heritage and intimidated and harassed local residents and officials.

These men and women are asking for change, and we support their right to challenge our government to make change. However, we do not agree with or support any citizen or elected official who would advocate for change in a manner that includes illegal action, threats of violence, or violence against any citizen of the United States."

Perhaps this organization would be better named the "Oregon State Sheriffs of Nottingham Association".

Some one thousand people were on hand for the funeral of LaVoy Finicum in Kanab, Utah yesterday. The funeral procession was led by a group of men on horseback and followed by many dozens of men, women and children riding on horseback, including Cliven Bundy, LaVoy's friend and father of the now jailed Ammon Bundy.

Shawna Cox, released from jail after being arrested when LaVoy was killed, was allowed by a federal judge to attend the funeral. She is under house arrest at her Utah home.

"Oregon Live" reports that more than 30 memorial events are planned for Lavoy Fincium in 17 states this weekend.

To wrap up, my prayers are that God would Bless All, even those one might call enemies like the FBI, government officials and law enforcement.

General George Patton's speech and Pastor Martin Niemoller's admonition in a modern context might read like this:

"What did you do when they came for the cowboys and the ranchers, what did you do in the great war on the cowboys....well I did nothing because I wasn't a cowboy and well I shoveled political s**t on the internet."

Isn't it time to support the four people at the refuge with prayer as well?

I don't believe in guns, violence or the two major political parties and their operatives like the "patriots" mentioned above to do good at this point.

I would gladly welcome unarmed, non violent actions in the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King, Operation Rescue and Gandhi outside the sphere of the PPN folks at this moment.

The FBI side already initiated violence in this situation, let them go Bull Connor on clearly unarmed people.

May the spiritual power of peaceful thinking and action be unleashed on the evil doings of the federal government in our Western states which have become entrenched over the decades much as the racial system called Jim Crow did in our Southern states in the decades following the Civil War.

And another General Patton "story" as portrayed in the 1970 movie. Patton trips over a sleeping soldier as he finds his new headquarters in disarray. The soldier rises from the floor and is asked by the general what he is doing. The soldier answers that he was getting some sleep. Patton responds that he should get back down sleeping, saying you're the 'only son of a ..... around here who knows what he's doing".

Well, Ammon Bundy, the late LaVoy Finicum and those arrested, charged and or at the refuge still when compared to the antics of the PPN seem to me to be the 'only sons of someone who know what they're doing' for better or worse.

If anyone wants to support them or the plight of Western farmers or ranchers, I hope they set the nonviolent examples of the past.


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1 posted on 02/06/2016 4:56:28 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush
I shoveled political s**t on the internet

Like a vanity thread labeled as "News"?

2 posted on 02/06/2016 4:59:27 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Nextrush
What bothers me most is that this is a contrived situation (by the feds) for some misdirected obama advantage
3 posted on 02/06/2016 5:02:03 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Nextrush

Tribute to LaVoy

Jordan Page - Ballad of LaVoy Finicum (Cowboy’s Stand for Freedom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzYwSJfO6Vk


4 posted on 02/06/2016 5:21:52 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Nextrush

FBI refuses to kill them; says ‘Screw these dumb hicks’; leaves the area.


5 posted on 02/06/2016 5:21:55 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Nextrush
These men and women are asking for change, and we support their right to challenge our government to make change. However, we do not agree with or support any citizen or elected official who would advocate for change in a manner that includes illegal action, threats of violence, or violence against any citizen of the United States.

So, back to the halls of black-robed tyrants? What recourse does a handful of wronged citizens have against an oppressive federal government? My, how far we have come since the Revolution.

6 posted on 02/06/2016 5:24:02 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: humblegunner
Like a vanity thread labeled as "News"?

Some folks' "vanity" qualifies as News. Like this one. It's good!

7 posted on 02/06/2016 5:25:20 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot
It's good!

It's a cobbled together bucket of plagiarism!

Mmmmm good!

8 posted on 02/06/2016 5:26:26 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

It is the news from Oregon about some people who for better or worse are frustrating big government and the big political parties.

God’s Speed to them.


9 posted on 02/06/2016 5:27:25 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS: REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: knarf
Yes, the Feds "contrived" it.

The Trilateral Commission put something in the Bundy crew's water that forced them to make hundreds of stupid decisions.

I remember when conservatism used to be about the rule of law and personal accountability instead of pretending that morons were heroes.

The PPN avoided doing something really foolish. Good for them.

10 posted on 02/06/2016 5:28:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Nextrush

Reminds me of the YPG in Kobane.


11 posted on 02/06/2016 5:28:48 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: Nextrush

It’s news from sources other than yourself.
Yet you stick your name on it.

That’s called plagiarism.


12 posted on 02/06/2016 5:29:10 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner
How about 'Hummergunner'?

'Cause you're not that humble.

13 posted on 02/06/2016 5:29:55 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: humblegunner

No, its called summarizing the news with attribution to sources along with commentary.

Its hitting home because you have to jump in and attack it like some operative for a political party or the government.


14 posted on 02/06/2016 5:33:29 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS: REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: SamuraiScot

It is barely readable. I can tell it is in English...kind of.


15 posted on 02/06/2016 5:35:39 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: wideawake

I wouldn’t want to see the PPN people get hurt but they obviously aren’t interested in following Ammon Bundy’s plan still being carried out by the four people resigned to die at the refuge.

They wanted to do the FBI’s job without blood being spilled that would be bad looking politically for the GOP and could trigger something worse.

How about some support for the four folks there like non violent unarmed approaches to the FBI siege perimeter ala Martin Luther King.

Go in the direction of nonviolence to set a good example but I guess that doesn’t help the political agenda I sense coming from PPN.


16 posted on 02/06/2016 5:42:20 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS: REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

Thanks.
I am starting to think that maybe, just maybe these guys in Oregon are right. that Tree of Liberty, Mr. Jefferson spoke of 200+ years ago is growing very withered and dried.
Your mentioning Dr. King’s sitting out Kennedy in the Albany, GA jail triggered a memory of Athens, Tennessee.
I would encourage folks to read about the “Battle of Athens”. I think this standoff could become the Battle of the BLM. Or maybe the second burning of Washington Dc.


17 posted on 02/06/2016 5:46:46 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: Nextrush

Do you wonder why all your threads get moved to “Chat”?

Maybe because YOU do not write “News”.
You write vanity threads.

Ponder that.


18 posted on 02/06/2016 5:47:00 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Nextrush

I appreciate reading a perspective other than that of MSM. There are some who post some really nasty comments here. I have to wonder if they would do the same if it affected them directly and not others.


19 posted on 02/06/2016 5:49:06 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: humblegunner

So any and all journalists who write about a topic are plagiarist? Funny definition you have.


20 posted on 02/06/2016 5:51:58 AM PST by nclaurel
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