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Oregon Standoff: 'Patriots Network' Fails To Shut Down Protest, Four Resigned To Die In FBI Siege
2/6/2016 | Self

Posted on 02/06/2016 4:56:28 AM PST by Nextrush

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To: sausageseller

Wow! You haven’t posted since 2010 when you flipped out and ran away.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:sausageseller/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


61 posted on 02/06/2016 11:43:58 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

I was here before you I will be here after you are gone. And I didn’t ‘flip out” . You are the same liar you have always been!


62 posted on 02/06/2016 11:51:43 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: humblegunner

I was here before you I will be here after you are gone. And I didn’t ‘flip out” . You are the same liar you have always been!


63 posted on 02/06/2016 11:51:43 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: sausageseller
And I didn't "flip out"

Certainly not.

You just spent the last six years in an institution.

With sausage.

64 posted on 02/06/2016 11:55:33 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Bad girls! Send them to my room.


65 posted on 02/06/2016 1:12:02 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Fightin Whitey

Yep. :)


66 posted on 02/06/2016 1:12:46 PM PST by Califreak
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To: Larry Lucido; Califreak
I forgot...is yours the room on the left...

Or the right?


67 posted on 02/06/2016 1:30:44 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

The room without the dude in it. :-)


68 posted on 02/06/2016 1:35:00 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Hey I thought that was a pretty good shot of you..

Lucky Larry dern it all anyway!


69 posted on 02/06/2016 1:39:42 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Flintlock

As a matter of conscience they should be approached non-violently.

That’s what MLK and his people did for example at Birmingham in the spring of 1963. When Bull Connor used the water cannon knocking men and women down and peeling their clothes off, when the dogs were set loose on young men and attacked them, there was outrage even from bystanders at the scene, who threw bricks at the police.

Once the visual images were spread around the country marches and violent clashes with police became commonplace nationwide.

So if non violent people unarmed come under FBI attack the possibility of ‘nonviolence’ ending and violence spreading would be very high based on my read of history.

JFK became so scared about the situation back then and the threat of white backlash against the Democrats including his own re-election in 1964 (the backlash finally hit them in 1966) that the FBI was ordered to spy on MLK.

The Democrats were spying to control and shut down MLK’s protest plans.


70 posted on 02/06/2016 3:55:00 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS: REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: DoodleDawg

Ammon Bundy’s tactics, dare I say probably recommended by his father Cliven, are not tactics I agree with. MLK would not have done it.

But as the old saying goes ‘stuff happens’ and this is the ball of wax “We the People” have been handed to sort out.

Caving into the authorities and ending the occupation like the PPN group wanted to do doesn’t sound right to me.

The four people don’t want to come out and be arrested by the FBI. They have made their decision for better or quite likely worse.

So what can the rest of us do to help them in a way that is morally sound and follows conscience about non violence in the MLK-Gandhi tradition.

That is the notion I am suggesting.

Show up unarmed enmasse and walk into the FBI siege line is what I suggest as an alternative to suiting up with tactical gear and long guns to face the authorities in a bloody fight that you’ll lose outright for starters and in the long run because public opinion won’t end up being on your side.

Unarmed people triggering FBI violence would do a lot more to change minds about this situation that angry posturing with weapons.

The FBI side already fired the first shots and committed the first real act of violence in this situation, not Ammon Bundy and Company.


71 posted on 02/06/2016 4:07:46 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS: REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: UCANSEE2
The Bundy's , the Hammond's , are all Americans who have land the CHINESE want.

So it was the Chinese who set the fires that got the Hammonds into trouble?

72 posted on 02/06/2016 4:19:17 PM PST by semimojo
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