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This Should Settle Cruz Eligibilty for the Trump Tribe
Washington Times ^ | 1/13/2016 | Susan Carleson

Posted on 01/13/2016 3:46:46 PM PST by conservativejoy

Edited on 01/13/2016 4:06:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Who was Aldo Mario Bellei, and why should Donald Trump care and Harvard Professor Laurence Tribe know? Because Mr. Bellei puts the lie to Donald Trump's attack on the eligibility of Senator Ted Cruz to be president backed up by Professor Tribe's claim that "[t]he Supreme Court has never addressed the issue.


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To: Hostage
But Ted as Donald’s VP for 8 years will allow the issue to be settled so that Ted can run in 2024.

If the ticket is Trump-Cruz, an attack on Cruz becomes an attack on Trump.

81 posted on 01/13/2016 4:46:02 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: conservativejoy

In my opinion Trump never really believed that Cruz was not eligible to serve. It is just a sleazy political game apparently born of desperation.


82 posted on 01/13/2016 4:46:25 PM PST by doug6352
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To: DiogenesLamp

I used Arthur as an example. There is also Woodrow Wilson (his mother was an Irish immigrant), James Buchanan (father from Ireland), Herbert Hoover (mother from Canada)...


83 posted on 01/13/2016 4:46:42 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: conservativejoy
Pray tell what was the law in 1787?

Partus Sequitur Patrem.

84 posted on 01/13/2016 4:46:52 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: JayGalt

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You constantly lie and deceive.

The link you posted is in agreement with the article at the WT.

>> “Page 401 U. S. 817

The plan thus adopted by Congress with respect to a person of this classification was to bestow citizenship at birth, but to take it away upon the person’s failure to comply with a post-age-14 and pre-age-28 residential requirement. It is this deprival of citizenship, once bestowed, that is under attack here.” <<

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Enough of your lies.


85 posted on 01/13/2016 4:47:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: conservativejoy

If Cruz’s mother was born in Connecticut .. she would naturally have been more than 14 years old when she moved to Canada to take a job (in fact she was a grown adult) .. so how does that not meet the residency requirement ..??

As with most on these threads .. You’re not making any sense.


86 posted on 01/13/2016 4:47:12 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: skeeter

Senator Cruz was naturalized by Congressional statute. Without that statute, he would not be citizen. A Congressional statute which grants citizenship can only be naturalization, because Article I, section 8 only grants Congress the power to “make rules regarding naturalization.” Congress is granted no power to define who is a citizen other than by an exercise of its power to define the rules of naturalization.


87 posted on 01/13/2016 4:47:31 PM PST by sourcery (Without the right to self defense, there can be no rights at all.)
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To: conservativejoy
As the article pointed out, SCOTUS has already ruled that there are only two kinds of citizens.

Natural born like John McCain and George Romney and perhaps Chester A Arthur.

And what about the man child who currently occupies the White Hut...his way around a possible ‘irregularity’ is to lie about his birth and fudge the paperwork and make sure the MSM has his back.

88 posted on 01/13/2016 4:48:46 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: sourcery
Right. And someone will come along soon and give an equally authoritative sounding explanation on why Cruz is eligible.

Thanks, but I'm gonna fall back on common sense and continue to support Cruz.

89 posted on 01/13/2016 4:48:58 PM PST by skeeter
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To: chicken head

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>> “If Rafael Eduardo Cruz is eligible for the presidency then so is the King of Jordan.” <<

Obviously you knew that was a lie when you posted it.


90 posted on 01/13/2016 4:49:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: bushpilot2
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91 posted on 01/13/2016 4:49:31 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: Vaquero
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It came from the Supreme Court:

Rogers v. Bellei 401 U.S. 815 (1971)

92 posted on 01/13/2016 4:50:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: magglepuss
My “idea” is exactly in line with the facts.

Do you even know that the version of TPA that he voted for was NOT the same version that came back from the House? And that it was the 2nd version he voted against because of the way it was changed, along with the fact that McConnell was trying to buy Senate votes by promising to resurrect the ExIm Bank?

By the way, why are you opposed to TPA, anyway? This has been around since the Carter Administration and it was just being re-authorized. I'll bet you don't really have any idea about what TPA is or does, and you either are confusing it with TPP or are just repeating liberal talking points (since the Dems unanimously opposed TPA).

93 posted on 01/13/2016 4:51:37 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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94 posted on 01/13/2016 4:52:04 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: The Final Harvest

Someone asked me about why Obama’s mom didn’t make him a citizen. I was referring to Obama, not Cruz.


95 posted on 01/13/2016 4:53:47 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: Balding_Eagle

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Trump cast the dirt on himself with his dissembling.

Trump had to prove himself not be presidential material.

He has accomplished that supremely.


96 posted on 01/13/2016 4:54:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I'd say, in terms of the US Constitution, Article IV, Sec. 2.

Before that, Section IV of the Articles of Confederation.

The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different States in this Union, the free inhabitants of each of these States, paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives from justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free citizens in the several States; and the people of each State shall free ingress and regress to and from any other State, and shall enjoy therein all the privileges of trade and commerce, subject to the same duties, impositions, and restrictions as the inhabitants thereof respectively, provided that such restrictions shall not extend so far as to prevent the removal of property imported into any State, to any other State, of which the owner is an inhabitant; provided also that no imposition, duties or restriction shall be laid by any State, on the property of the United States, or either of them.
There was no "citizen of the confederation," offered just to show that state citizenship existed before the constitution was ratified. Ratification of the constitution then brought its art IV, sec. 2 into force.

On the OP, it is amazing to see such a blatant lie perpetrated by an author who dared to name herself! Future historians are going to have a very difficult time figuring out what the truth of the matter was, there is probably a ton of falsehood for every ounce of truth.

97 posted on 01/13/2016 4:55:16 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Hostage
And going to the general with this hanging over Ted's head is not good.

I have said this so many times that I am sick of repeating myself, but here goes once more.

The Democrats do not have to win in court. All they need to do is win in the court of public opinion.

If the media conveys the impression that Cruz is not legitimate, it will cost him the election, even if he wins in court.

Maybe nothing will come of it, but the possibility exists that right after he becomes our nominee, the Democrats open up a blitzkreig assault on his legitimacy. They will file lawsuits, they will repeat through the media that he's not eligible, and if they can shave a few percent of the vote, he will likely lose the general election.

I'm a Cruz supporter, and I think he's the best man for the job, but let us not fool ourselves about how great of a threat this issue could become. It could become a very great threat.

It's going to be hard enough to get any of the purple states to vote for him anyways, and if we can't pry off a blue state, we are not going to win this next election.

98 posted on 01/13/2016 4:55:46 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: CA Conservative
I used Arthur as an example. There is also Woodrow Wilson (his mother was an Irish immigrant), James Buchanan (father from Ireland), Herbert Hoover (mother from Canada)...

The mother's are irrelevant. Women were automatically naturalized upon marriage. The fathers all became American citizens before their sons were born, therefore making them the son of an American citizen.

99 posted on 01/13/2016 4:57:55 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m sure that was the case in Greta Britain, but we founded a new nation. If we wanted to be bound by the laws of England we could have remained colonies instead of forming an independent republic.

If the Queen of England had given birth outside of the country, her offspring would have been a natural born subject or citizen of England. In this country, we are all sovereign.


100 posted on 01/13/2016 4:59:29 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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