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January 1856
Amazon | 1892, 2004 | Frederick Douglass, Nicole Etcheson

Posted on 01/01/2016 5:55:35 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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Happy New Year.

I promise there will be some actual 160-year-old information to present later on, but for now let us continue catching up on . . .

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"The Life and Times of Frederick Douglass," by Frederick Douglass, (1892 edition)


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To: ml/nj

Well would you support the idea that taint all one and taint all the other.....................


61 posted on 01/04/2016 7:24:21 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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I am not sure I have a take away. Certainly the story illustrates how slave were viewed as non persons. Certainly it underlines what we all should know that slavery was not just a think of the US. Really probably 90% or even 99% of us are descendants of slaves if you go back far enough.

It also illustrates how resourceful people can be to survive on such a tiny strip of treeless land for so long. Imagine keeping a fire going for 15 year with so little fuel for the fire. Imagine child birth in such circumstances. Imagine being brave enough to attempt to sail off that island. It is to me breath-taking how easy our lives are compared to people in the past.


62 posted on 01/04/2016 8:32:30 PM PST by JLS
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To: JLS
Certainly it underlines what we all should know that slavery was not just a think of the US. Really probably 90% or even 99% of us are descendants of slaves if you go back far enough.

True. And if not slave ancestors, then perhaps indentured servant ancestors. I suspect that some of my Irish, Scotch-Irish, and Dutch ancestors might have come to America as indentured servants. Being an indentures servant wasn't as bad as being a slave. Well, it apparently was bad enough in some cases for the servants to run away. See, for example, the following advertisements offering rewards for the recovery of runaway servants. I found these advertisements in 1787 Philadelphia newspapers: Link

The papers said that one of the escaped servants, a Dutchman, had been purchased from on ship board. So, they apparently could be sold like slaves.

63 posted on 01/04/2016 11:06:17 PM PST by rustbucket
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64 posted on 01/05/2016 5:14:52 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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65 posted on 01/06/2016 5:33:46 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: PeterPrinciple
Well would you support the idea that taint all one and taint all the other.....................

Of course it wasn't all one way or the other. This paragragh from Fremantle that I quoted before on this thread strikes me as probably accurate.

My fellow-travellers of all classes are much given to talk to me about their "peculiar institution," and they are most anxious that I should see as much of it as possible, in order that I may be convinced that it is not so bad as has been represented, and that they are not all "Legrees," although they do not attempt to deny that there are many instances of cruelty. But they say a man who is known to illtreat his negroes is hated by all the rest of the community. They declare that Yankees make the worst masters when they settle in the South; and all seem to be perfectly aware that slavery, which they did not invent, but which they inherited from us (English), is and always will be the great bar to the sympathy of the civilised world. I have heard these words used over and over again.
ML/NJ
66 posted on 01/06/2016 10:42:58 AM PST by ml/nj
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67 posted on 01/07/2016 5:04:02 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Filed under: “Read if you ever start to feel sorry for yourself and your condition.”


68 posted on 01/07/2016 6:40:21 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('To secure the Blessings of Liberty to our Posterity.')
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“Read if you ever start to feel sorry for yourself and your condition.”

My alarm clock didn't go off on time, then the dog threw up on the living room carpet, then I had a flat on the way to work. Nobody knows the trouble I've seen.

69 posted on 01/07/2016 7:01:48 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I be so glad... when the sun goes down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-zlSq4mWiE&list=PL3I6jMZ3mAkM3ipqnUWQidtePs07wgDV8


70 posted on 01/07/2016 7:10:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('To secure the Blessings of Liberty to our Posterity.')
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Good morning.

Filed under: “Read if you ever start to feel sorry for yourself and your condition.”

Yep.

5.56mm

71 posted on 01/07/2016 7:18:49 AM PST by M Kehoe
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Good morning!


72 posted on 01/07/2016 7:22:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('To secure the Blessings of Liberty to our Posterity.')
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To: EternalVigilance

Agreed.


73 posted on 01/07/2016 9:59:14 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Betcha if anyone would have asked Covey would have told them he treats his slaves well.


74 posted on 01/07/2016 3:52:54 PM PST by colorado tanker
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75 posted on 01/08/2016 5:06:30 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I’ve been grieved by that excerpt all day, ever since I read it this morning.


76 posted on 01/08/2016 10:45:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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Chapter 17 to be continued.

"The Life and Times of Frederick Douglass," by Frederick Douglass, (1892 edition)

77 posted on 01/09/2016 7:30:33 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: EternalVigilance

All too often in these discussions about those times, the word “tyranny” is much bandied about. Now we hear the word from the perspective of Freddie Douglas, “Humanity fell before the systematic tyranny of slavery”.


78 posted on 01/09/2016 9:22:02 AM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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Today in our country, humanity falls before the systemic tyranny of abortion.


79 posted on 01/09/2016 10:04:18 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

The lock-step parallels are not lost on me. Can you say “peculiar institution”?


80 posted on 01/09/2016 10:16:50 AM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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