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To: Swordmaker
Come back to me when Apple have fixed their >>design flaw<< of the battery not being removable.

Apple's competitors do it (battery compartment and removable battery). Why not Apple? Answer: because they are Apple and they don't have to.

To continue....

YOU DO VOID THE WARRANTY if you take the unit apart. Clearly, it is not recommended and even discouraged! Gee, I wonder why. Answer: maybe because it is risky and the phone might get damaged.

Very clearly: The phone, Ipod, Ipad are not designed to be taken apart!

And to have Batteries Plus do it is not recommended either. My own experience proves that. That was YOUR recommendation and you claim to be the expert.

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RE: Apple replacing the battery.

So it costs me $79 plus shipping to have the battery replaced. This simply reinforces my point — why spend another $79 on an old unit. Most people won't hassle with it. Especially grandma who is technologically challenged or your average customer who can't tolerate not having their cell phone for several weeks!!!!

Let me repeat! — Several weeks without their phone while Apple replaces the battery! Also, I wonder if they actually replace the battery or maybe they just swap the unit with another like unit. There are so many reason why this is a bad idea. I can go into detail if you like.

So, why not apply the $79 towards a brand new unit. And, of course, Apple would be very happy to sell me one. My point is made!

Apples competitors offer removable batteries. The advantages (to repeat)....

1. The store can do it in 15 minutes. Don't have to wait weeks for the unit to be returned. Weeks without a cell phone.
2. The customer doesn't have to ship their unit back to the factory or have some third party do the repairs. A logistical hassle.
3. Risk of damaging the phone if it is taken apart.
4. The additional cost of the labor to replace the battery. The cell phone store will do it for free if the battery is replaceable. Heck, the customer can do it themselves.

78 posted on 12/28/2015 7:23:47 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
Come back to me when Apple have fixed their >>design flaw<< of the battery not being removable.

Show me the removable batteries in the Samsung Galaxy Edge, S6, S5, etc. How about in the Google Nexus line. Sorry, you won't find them there either. It is an engineering design decision for good and considered reasons. Ergo, dhs, there is no design flaw, but a fairly industry standard in high end cellular phones.

YOU DO VOID THE WARRANTY if you take the unit apart. Clearly, it is not recommended and even discouraged! Gee, I wonder why. Answer: maybe because it is risky and the phone might get damaged.

You cannot void a warranty that is no longer in effect, dhs. When it is in effect, Apple will do any internal repairs or replace a failed or defective battery for free. Ergo, if one opens the case before the warranty is expired, one runs the risk of voiding the warranty. USE YOUR BRAIN, dhs. After the warranty expires, there is no risk of voiding a non-existent warranty, and Apple does not care what you do with it as they no longer have an obligation to repair it.

Very clearly: The phone, iPod, iPad are not designed to be taken apart!

On the contrary, the iPhone, iPod, and iPad are designed to be taken apart, as the various components are connected by pluggable modules with clamps that are designed to unclamp the ribbon cables so they can be easily removed and re-inserted to gain access to every component. If they were not designed to be taken apart, they would not be modular with parts designed to be easily replaced. I know for a fact that is the case, because I took apart my daughter's iPad 3 just yesterday to replace the cracked digitizer screen. It took the removal of the original digitizer screen and four screws. You do not use screws unless you are designing something with the intent for something to be taken apart in the future.

So it costs me $79 plus shipping to have the battery replaced. This simply reinforces my point -- why spend another $79 on an old unit. Most people won't hassle with it. Especially grandma who is technologically challenged or your average customer who can't tolerate not having their cell phone for several weeks!!!!

You are making stuff up again. "Weeks?" Again, you do not know what you are talking about.

Apple's turn around time on a mailed in repair service for is 3 to 5 business days from the time it is sent by the user.

How long will it take?

Service arranged by phone or online takes three to five business days from the day your iPhone is shipped to Apple. When you bring your iPhone to an appointment at an Apple Retail Store or Authorized Service Provider, we might be able to fix the issue the same day. Or it could take up to one week if we need to send your iPhone to an Apple Repair Center.

Apple also offers Express Replacement Service to minimize your time without an iPhone.

Express Replacement Service allows an Apple users with AppleCare to simply notify Apple they have a problem with their battery. Apple will send them a new phone within 3 days and they return their old one in exchange. Total cost is $29. Done.

If you go to an Apple Store for your battery replacement, they will take care of it while you are there. If they find a problem that will take longer than you can wait, Apple will provide you a loaner iPhone until your iPhone is returned. Try that with any other repair system.

However, if you can step up a bit for just $99 and get a new iPhone (albeit last year's model) with a lot of new features your old one doesn't have, you are better off trading it in for a hundred dollars (which will PAY the downpayment on the new iPhone) and moving on.

Why spend $79 on an old unit? We are most likely talking about a device that is now several years old that has given good service for those years and a minor fee can assure it giving several years more good service. Why not pay $79 to restore it to like new condition?

And to have Batteries Plus do it is not recommended either. My own experience proves that. That was YOUR recommendation and you claim to be the expert.

Please show where Apple makes such a negative recommendation. There are literally thousands of locations where one can have Apple iOS devices repaired and/or have the batteries replaced. As I told you earlier, there are at least four within a few miles of my location and, I checked, they warranty their work with full replacement if they damage the device.

How interesting. Your "friend's experience" now becomes "your experience." Q.E.D. you are making the whole story up out of whole cloth. You never had that experience nor did your "friend." As I said earlier, adding detail to add verisimilitude outed you and showed you were lying about it.

79 posted on 12/28/2015 10:34:05 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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