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Donald Trump Goes Nuclear: Let's Face It, Ted Cruz 'Is a Bit of a Maniac'
PJ Media ^ | 12-13-2015 | Michael van der Galien

Posted on 12/13/2015 7:33:18 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

In what's more evidence that Donald Trump is becoming completely unhinged, he is now stooping so low as to label Tea Party favorite Ted Cruz "a bit of a maniac":

"I don’t think he’s qualified to be president… I don’t think he has the right temperament. I don’t think he’s got the right judgment… You look at the way he’s dealt with the Senate, where he goes in there like a — you know, frankly like a little bit of a maniac. You’re never going to get things done that way."

He added:

"Look, I built a phenomenal business. I’m worth many, many billions of dollars. I have some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world. You can’t walk into the Senate, and scream, and call people liars, and not be able to cajole and get along with people. He’ll never get anything done. And that’s the problem with Ted."

It's rather fascinating that this is coming from the most bombastic and maniacal presidential candidate in history. Almost every single one of his proposals are downright outlandish, and he calls everyone who dares disagree with him "a loser" and worse. See how he smeared Dr. Ben Carson by calling him "pathological."

What's more, Trump's latest jabs at Cruz prove that he has no idea what real conservatives want. Cruz promised them to stand up for their values in Washington D.C., even if the establishment would hate him for it. That's exactly what he's done, and it's one of the main reasons that he's now so popular among Evangelicals, very conservative voters, and those who identify themselves with the Party.

If I was Cruz, I'd politely ask The Donald to attack me even more. After all, this will only end up helping, rather than hurting him.

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To: JediJones

Actually I think Trump and Congress would work very well together. He’s used to running a multi million dollar operation. I think he will talk them into about whatever he wants.


341 posted on 12/13/2015 1:52:06 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ironman

This article said Sunday.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-ted-cruz-a-maniac-in-senate/article/2578255


342 posted on 12/13/2015 2:13:11 PM PST by kygolfman
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To: caww
Polls seem to float with whatever bias might be playing at the moment.....

Don't know about your comments, but...

It's polls that [usually] say Trump is the front-runner, and the question of bias doesn't come up unless they are somehow unfavorable to Trump. Sour grapes?

Net favorability doesn't get reported often, or widely, but Trump's has consistently been, and is, low - at least since we got past name recognition and the public became aware of his vulgarity, thin skin (apparently) and savage attacks. And IMO if he is the GOP nominee the media will go after him with everything they can find including his father's remarks when he put him into a military academy, louche comments about the media and, er... a$$, etc. And possibly things that didn't actually happen as well.

FR threads are driven to a large extent by discussions of poll numbers. If they "float with whatever bias might be playing at the moment", why bring them up? After all, the only poll that counts is....
343 posted on 12/13/2015 3:31:16 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: cowboyway

Whatever


344 posted on 12/13/2015 3:40:19 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Why wouldn’t I want the guy who swears to Budhha he’s going to build a wall and round up and deport?

Because Cruz will also secure the border, plus eliminate the magnets that attract illegal aliens, resulting in large-scale self-deportation -- all with much less fuss and bother.

There is another consideration that is almost never considered. Which is more likely to actually get done?

1. Forcible mass deportation.

2. Elimination of job opportunities and welfare benefits, thence resultant large-scale self-deportation.

You understand that a President simply can't decree either approach. In either case, he will need the cooperation of Congress and a significant segment of the federal bureaucracy -- not to mention the continued support of the people.

Which is more likely to achieve its ends?

345 posted on 12/13/2015 3:45:56 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Cruz is going to have to bend a knee to his cheap labor express donors. He will do very little on immigration. It will lead to full amnesty. YOu are deluding yourself if you think all those wall street donors of Ted’s want a secure border.


346 posted on 12/13/2015 3:48:17 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: TimPatriot
Trump has stated that he wants to be the GOP nominee.

So do various other people. So what?

What other leverage does he have to ensure he IS treated fairly?

He has a queer notion of "fair" when it comes to himself. The leverage you're referring to is against "GOPe", I guess. What about John and Jane Doe Republican voter. He's threatening them by splitting the vote, thus ensuring a Dem win. However they vote is neither fair or unfair, unless he has a sense of entitlement to their vote. A recent national poll of Republican voters shows negative net favorability: 35-57 = -22. Pffft.
347 posted on 12/13/2015 3:50:24 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Aria

I had read article some time ago talking about how pretty much nobody in the Senate can stand him.


The people in Senate who “can’t stand him” are the same who pander to Conservatives while running and then stab us in the back after they’re reelected.

Cruz had the gall to keep the promises he made to the voters. If you’ve got a problem with that then you are the problem.


348 posted on 12/13/2015 4:01:12 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: JediJones; Georgia Girl 2

The GOPe quislings hate Cruz because he won’t compromise the ideals that led the voters to put him in office.

If you want Jeb, vote for Jeb. I won’t vote for Jeb.


349 posted on 12/13/2015 4:05:17 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: libbylu

I listened to the tape and I agree with Cruz. As a supporter said, the worry is who would trump put on the SC. His sister? He did mention that last summer, hopefully he was not series.
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LOL, I don’t know if he was series, but this is Hugh.


350 posted on 12/13/2015 4:08:43 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Exactly who are these "Wall Street donors"?

Cruz's largest donors, I believe, are a pair of reclusive Texas brothers who are independent shale oil operators.

They have never before been politically active and reportedly have no interest in the "cheap labor express".

Further, I note that the Wall Street Journal -- the "voice of the cheap labor express" -- seems to be investing their ink supply in supporting first Jeb, then Rubio, and attacking Cruz.

351 posted on 12/13/2015 4:15:55 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: kygolfman

Trump did interviews with Jake Tapper and Chris Wallace on Friday. Both were aired today. Important to know sequence of statements.


352 posted on 12/13/2015 4:27:58 PM PST by ironman
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To: cowboyway; All
Post links.

Sorry for the delay:

Okay, so Rubio accused Cruz of having supported an expansion of H1B visas and of legalizing illegal aliens. Cruz called these claims entirely false, and his surrogates have claimed that Cruz didn't actually support the bill in any way, but just offered his amendment to prove that Dems weren't serious about reform and just wanted to give citizenship to illegals. Legalization here is to be distinguished from granting citizenship, which you do not need to give to permanent residents (but which they'll inevitably get anyway).

So, did Cruz not support immigration reform, and did he oppose legalization like he claims? Let's see.

The following is a short transcript from a video that was produced after Team Cruz denied they supported legalization earlier in the year, and was generally ignored at the time:

"And I'd like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system, and in particular about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows. If this amendment is adopted to the current bill the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status.** They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed under the terms of the bill they would be eligible for LPR status as well, so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principle objective -- to provide a legal status for those who are here illlegally to be out of the shadows. This amendment would allow that to happen.

And a second point to those advocacy groups that are so passionately engaged. In my view if this committee rejects this amendment, and I think everyone here views it as quite likely this committee will choose to reject this amendment, in my view that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will fail in the House of Representantives. I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass, and so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows, then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromise to come together and this amendment --I believe if this amendment were to pass the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically, and so I would urge the committee to give it full consideration and to adopt the amendment."

Ted Cruz Amnesty Round II: The Telltale Video

Does this sound, as the blogger notes, "like someone using a parliamentary device merely to smoke out the Democratic position, or someone sketching "middle ground" legislation he supports?"

Cruz has also declared during that time period:

"The American people are overwhelmingly unified that, number one, we need to secure the border," he added. "And, number two, any bill that this body passes should have border security first and then legalization, not the other way around."

Ted Cruz blasts Gang of Eight Bill

From the Texas Tribune in September of 2013:

"What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already: A path to legal status, but not to citizenship. A green card with no right to naturalization.

Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate's so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

"The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation." Cruz Tries to Claim Middle Ground on Immigration

In March of THIS YEAR, MSNBC, wondering if he had changed position, caught up with Cruz and asked him what his current position on legalization is, since he had spoken against a short lived legalization proposal from the House:

"Asked by msnbc about where Cruz stands now on legalization, campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said that the senator has been "consistent" and confirmed that the views he expressed in the Tribune had not changed. She described his amendment to the Senate "gang of eight" bill as an effort "to improve a very bad bill" that he ultimately opposed.

While Frazier said Cruz fought the bill's path to citizenship because it "flies in the face of the rule of law," she declined to apply the same label when asked about legal status in the right circumstances. "I think his main priority is dealing with the border security component and making sure that we know who is coming into the country and making sure that we have control over who is coming into the country and then we can deal with what to do with the people who are already here," she said.

Cruz Hasn't Ruled out Legal Status for Undocumented Immigrants

So it appears Cruz considers anything that does not include sufficient border enforcement first to be amnesty, but from 2013 to 2015 never actually opposed legalization "under the right circumstances," which he does not define as amnesty. The spokesman affirmed that his position from the 2013 Texas Tribune article (posted above) had not changed, but that his focus was primarily on border security first.

Starting after March, however, where immigration became a bigger deal, Cruz stopped giving direct answers to whether or not he supported legalization:

CHUCK TODD: You still didn't say what you'd do with the 11 million.

TED CRUZ: Well, my view is first, we secure the borders and solve the problem of illegal immigration. And then I think we can have a conversation about what to do about the people who remain here. I don’t think the American people will accept any solution until we demonstrate step number one, we can secure the border.

CHUCK TODD: So anything's on the table? Potentially deportation or not deportation, but anything's on the table for the 11 million--

TED CRUZ: I think we should secure the border and then have a conversation at that point. Stop using the Washington approach of I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. The American people aren’t going for it.

Cruz Flops

This pattern continued in interviews after this, such as with Megyn Kelly later in the year.

(I'll also note that Scott Walker was also using this "we'll have a conversation" rhetoric around the same exact time, which made me think the GOP actually got together to try that line of argument.)

In November, Cruz was accused by the Rubio campaign of having supported legalization and expanding H1-B programs, saying that Cruz "proposed legalizing people that were here illegally. He proposed giving them work permits. He's also supported a massive expansion of the green cards. He supported a massive expansion of the H-1B program... so, if you look at it, I don’t think our positions are dramatically different."

Cruz's Pro-American Immigration Reform Plan Shows He's not Marco Rubio

The Ted Cruz campaign responded that these accusations were blatantly false, and that Cruz was merely using a trick to sabotage a bad bill he never supported. He then released an immigration plan either a day or two days after Rubio's charges, essentially to demonstrate that he's strong on immigration. However, Cruz's team apparently continued to give news outlets the same "We'll have a conversation later" statements with regards to legalization:

"While Cruz may not support legalization, he hasn't definitively ruled it out. His position, his campaign said, is that he'll refuse to even discuss what to do with the undocumented population until the border is secure."

Did Cruz Actually Support Legal Status?

"Texas Sen. Ted Cruz declined to close the door to a potential pathway to legal status for the 11 million people in the U.S. illegally Friday, saying he wouldn't elaborate on his plans for them until after the border is secure."

Cruz Won't Rule out Legalization

So, is Ted Cruz and his team being honest with his supporters when he rails against amnesty and accuses Team Rubio of "blatant falsehood"?

Well, you be the judge.

353 posted on 12/13/2015 4:43:33 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: okie01

Ted Cruz is the fourth largest recipient of Wall street money of all the candidates. His wife Heidi says everyday she calls 35 people to ask for money. She works at Goldman Sachs. Who do you think she calls?


354 posted on 12/13/2015 5:11:43 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Nobody is voting for Jeb. That’s kind of a weird remark.


355 posted on 12/13/2015 5:13:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Nobody is voting for Jeb. That’s kind of a weird remark.


How strange. Every other election cycle we had the establishment slaves telling us if we didn’t support the RINO the Democrats will thank us.


356 posted on 12/13/2015 5:18:52 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I don’t think anybody is going for it this year.


357 posted on 12/13/2015 5:20:33 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Donald Trump Goes Nuclear.

WHY ARE YOU HYSTERICAL?

He did no such thing.


358 posted on 12/13/2015 5:22:57 PM PST by onyx
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To: Georgia Girl 2

For some reason I fail to share your faith in human intelligence. ;-)


359 posted on 12/13/2015 5:27:23 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
She works at Goldman Sachs.

She worked at Goldman-Sachs.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWW-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Conspiracy Alert!!! Conspiracy Alert!!! Conspiracy Alert!!!

360 posted on 12/13/2015 5:33:45 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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