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To: DiogenesLamp; roadcat
I quoted the MK4116, manufactured by Mostek, which according to Wikipedia:

So what. . . you post a bunch of blather about a single component that is required to make the actual RAM, not the working RAM. You really do not seem to understand the complete cost involved, do you? It is NOT the single component chip. . . it is making it WORK that costs the money. You are delusional if you think you can just through eight chips in a box and it works. Sorry, Diogenes. YOU ARE WRONG.

I don't care how much of the market Mostek held in the DRAM chip market, it still would not be working RAM until you combined it with other chips, circuit boards, etc, and THEN you'd have working RAM. . . which cost approximately $400-$500 or so. I don't give a flying Fish that you could buy the COMPONENT DRAM for x dollars, it would STILL NOT WORK until it was made into a finished, working product!

YOU have a problem grasping that. I, as an Economist, don't have a problem at all. YOU DO!

66 posted on 10/12/2015 9:14:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker; DiogenesLamp

It’s okay Swordmaker, there’s no hope for that asshat. He’s just out to stir up trouble on threads with nothing factual to back him up, unlike us. We were there in the 1970s as adults, he was a little kid like that muslim boy who “invented” a clock after taking the guts out of a storebought item. We were the adults working in IT, he was a kid tinkering around the edges. Both of us became successful. I retired some years back and left IT behind me, to enjoy the fruits of my labors (IT made my life easy). However, I kept some of the stuff I worked on back then and know what I remember to be true. I still have my Apple II gear, still working to this day although it runs on flash drives instead of tape or floppies. Even the 16K RAM banks with their glistening gold leads and gold caps work. Actually, I have several Apple II Revision-0 machines; very rare, one in the low 300 SN range - another in the low 100 SN range I sold. These machines were amazing in their time. Back then in SF during the 70s I was active in a computer club, I could name drop if wanted, discussing things with the people who were instrumental in designing the Mac. This guy DiogenesLamp was just out of diapers then, maybe not. Every once in a while he pulls a load from his diapers and thinks it smells good. We know the truth.


67 posted on 10/12/2015 10:58:43 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Swordmaker
So what. . . you post a bunch of blather about a single component that is required to make the actual RAM, not the working RAM.

You are ignorant. I've put together Apple II boards. The only thing necessary to put additional memory in them are those MK4116 memory chips. All the support circuitry is already built into the motherboards.

Here's a schematic if you are knowledgeable enough to understand it. (I am. I can tell you what every single component does. I could build one from components if I was so inclined. )

Now stop mouthing back at me with your ignorant opinions.

73 posted on 10/13/2015 6:40:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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