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COUNTY CLERK IN KENTUCKY FACES CONTEMPT HEARING IN FEDERAL COURT TOMORROW
9/2/2015 | Self

Posted on 09/02/2015 4:29:48 AM PDT by Nextrush

Rowan County, Kentucky Chief Clerk Kim Davis and her staff will face US District Judge David Bunning after lawyers for two gay couples filed a contempt motion.

The lawyers for the plantiffs want the judge to issue hefty fines against her to force compliance with his earlier order for her issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

Yesterday morning, Davis's office again refused to issue marriage licenses to the two same sex couples who appeared at her office again to demand licenses.

Davis issued a statement regarding her decision that says in part.

"I am not perfect. No one is. But I am forgiven and I love my Lord and must be obedient to Him and the Word of God.....I have no amimosity towards anyone. To me this has never been a gay or lesbian issue. It is about marriage and God's Word. It is a matter of religious liberty, which is protected under the First Amendment, the Kentucky Constitution and in the Kentucky Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Our history is filled with accomodations for people's religious freedom and conscience. I want to continue to perform my duties, but I also am requesting what our Founders envisioned-that conscience and religious freedom would be protected. That is all I am asking. I never sought to be in this position, and I would much rather not have been placed in this position. I have received death threats from people who do not know me. I harbor nothing against them. I was elected by the people to serve as the County Clerk. I intend to continue to serve the people of Rowan County, but I cannot violate my conscience"

We shall soon see what the response of the federal judiciary is, perhaps as early as tomorrow's contempt hearing.

Fines could be coming as the plantiff's lawyers want, but the final decision comes from Judge Bunning.

Kim Davis's opponents have resorted to smear tactics noting her three previous marriages and sex outside of marriage resulting in children.

My Trumpistic brass knuckles response to that "stuff" is this.

We have a national holiday honoring a man who led historic acts of civil disobedience.

Dr. Martin Luther King, a married man and assassinated martyr, was not perfect either as the FBI found out when it recorded his frequent encounters with two prostitutes at a time. Four FBI technicians told author Taylor Branch that Dr. King said "I'm f***ing for God".

nobody is perfect as Kim Davis noted in her statement.

If we are going to assassinate Davis's character and say she isn't worthy of having her conscience respected in this matter, then let us go ahead and cancel Martin Luther King's birthday as a national holiday.

Since that isn't going to happen, I'm not going to worry about Kim Davis's past and none of us should give a rip about it.

We should be grateful that Davis had the ability to cite a 'Religious Freedom Restoration Act' in Kentucky law.

When attempts were made to pass such laws in Indiana and Arkansas back in the spring, corporate elites like the CEO's of Apple and Wal-Mart stood up and the Republican governors (Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson) backed down.

When North Carolina's legislature passed religious conscience legislation earlier this year for public officials regarding gay marriage Republican Governor Pat McCrory vetoed it.

Good reminders that our faith and trust should not be in the GOP whose officials slowly rot this nation, but in the GOD who created us all and will strengthen this nation.

And with that faith perhaps we can find meaningful ways to resist evil and bring the politicians along by overwhelming them with that resistance in peaceful and spiritual ways.

That's essentially what Martin Luther King had to do and did back in the 1960's.

There may be some violence along the way like there was in that decade, but it will not be because we wanted it, but because evil people chose to ignite it.


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To: Neoliberalnot

And liberal/Democrat/pro-gay judges rule according to their ideology and work out the legal justifications later. Its all a farce.


21 posted on 09/02/2015 5:57:05 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: tanknetter

They’re going to have to tread lightly.

They KNOW they’ve imposed an abomination against the will of the people,
and would see some backlash since they can be held accountable and the judges cannot.


22 posted on 09/02/2015 5:57:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: j.argese

I have no problem seeing it from that perspective.

However what’s going on here is MUCH more complex than the simple refusal of a governmental official to fulfill a task assigned to her.

For instance, my understanding is that a marriage license issued anywhere in KY is valid anywhere in KY (do I have that right?). These folks are deliberately targeting her because they know she’ll refuse. They can go to the next County over and get a license, today, if the so chose to.

So it’s easy to conclude that it’s not enough for them to get married, they ALSO want making a Christian violate her beliefs and conscience to be part of their sacred union.

Now thats extraneous to the legal issues here involving performance of her official duties. But it certainly should be part of the discussion about what’s, in the larger sense, really going on.


23 posted on 09/02/2015 5:59:27 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Nextrush

I watched a clip of the perverts swarming this woman’s workplace and harrassing her last night. Prayers up for her safety.


24 posted on 09/02/2015 6:08:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: MrB

KY is one of the last Red states where Democrats can win so long as they present themselves as Conservatives. Thats how this County Clerk, who is a Democrat, won the office she now occupies.

This issue scares the hell out of KY Democrats. And it’s the reason why national Democrats aren’t applying any sort of pressure on KY Democrat officeholders to take some sort of action, even symbolic action, against her.


25 posted on 09/02/2015 6:09:18 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Nextrush

Just also remember who you’re picking to represent “conservatives”. She’s been married 4 times and had children out of wedlock.


26 posted on 09/02/2015 6:09:50 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Lexinom

Well said.


27 posted on 09/02/2015 6:11:52 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Bigg Red

Yes, they were wacko.

The men trying to beat down the door of Genesis 19 came to mind.


28 posted on 09/02/2015 6:15:38 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: TexasGunLover

All before she was born again and became Evangelical.

I’m not evangelical. Not even particularly religious, but I can see where going through that sort of religious awakening changes ones outlook and behavior in a way that makes many things that happened before that awakening irrelevant.

The Left is trotting out the hypocracy card. It’s a bullying tactic that has no particular relevance here.


29 posted on 09/02/2015 6:15:49 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: j.argese
The clerk is wrong. That was the whole point of "rendering unto Caesar". We walk simultaneously in the world of man and the world of God. What we need to do in walk in the world of man is not counted against us, within reason.

 

And will your support for same sex marriages be the same when Caesar demand you sign a loyalty oath in support of queer marriage or lose you private sector job?

"Obey the Law or Resign". Is that it? Is that what you'd have the clerk do? You'd have made a fine Nazi. After all - they too were only following the law as they sent millions of Jews to their deaths.

30 posted on 09/02/2015 6:22:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: TexasGunLover
Be careful with that attitude. A FReeper just got the zot for simply posting this.
31 posted on 09/02/2015 6:25:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: tanknetter
The Left is trotting out the hypocracy[sic] card. It’s a bullying tactic that has no particular relevance here.

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
32 posted on 09/02/2015 6:26:50 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: TexasGunLover

Uhhh, so?


33 posted on 09/02/2015 6:27:57 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Be careful with that attitude. A FReeper just got the zot for simply posting this.

Yes, FR in recent years has become quite the bed of hypocrisy. Just look at all the Cruz and Trump supporters.
34 posted on 09/02/2015 6:28:04 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: j.argese

She is obeying Kentucky law, as she is sworn to do.


35 posted on 09/02/2015 6:28:38 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: MrB

Wouldn’t a Federal Judgista have to be impeached by the US Congress? If so, don’t hold your breath waiting.


36 posted on 09/02/2015 6:30:05 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: tanknetter
She won’t go to jail...She will get fined.

She could conceivably get both. It depends on how hard-assed the judge wants to be. She will have a hard decision to make tomorrow, and while it's easy for us to say she should dig in her heels and stand her ground we're not the ones facing jail or financial penalty. So whatever her decision is tomorrow I'm not going to second guess her on it.

37 posted on 09/02/2015 6:30:28 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: tanknetter

Excellent point. They could go to the next county over instead of targeting this one woman.


38 posted on 09/02/2015 6:30:44 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: j.argese
The whole "rendering unto Caesar" is misunderstood. Tell me: what is not God's? Money? God says:

"The gold and the silver are mine" - Haggai 2:8.

In the final analysis, nothing is Caesar's. Everything is God's. He holds the deed to the Universe. When Caesar tries to force us to his will instead of God's, God himself tells us to refuse.

"We must obey God rather than men" - Acts 5:29.

Perhaps you think this woman should leave her job because of her Christian convictions. Would you like every believing Christian to walk away from every government job that forces them to compromise their faith? I don't think you would like our nation with a government of only non-believers.

Better she should stand and fight. I support her 100%. She is standing up for God.

39 posted on 09/02/2015 6:31:20 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Perhaps you think this woman should leave her job because of her Christian convictions.[sic]

I believe that would be the will of Jesus.
40 posted on 09/02/2015 6:34:12 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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