Posted on 08/25/2015 2:10:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Summary
By now, the weight of the evidence that Apple is working on a car has become overwhelming, but an announcement out of the UK of a hydrogen fuel cell powered iPhone may shed the most light yet on Apple's automobile project. The technology used to build the fuel cell powered iPhone could be used to build a fuel cell powered car, but not just any hydrogen powered car. The fuel cells powering the iPhone could amount to the Holy Grail of EV technology . . .
The report of the fuel cell powered iPhone 6 contained important clues about the technology. The fuel cell was built by Intelligent Energy (IE), a British startup with reported close ties to Apple. The ultra compact hydrogen fuel cell they built fit into the space allotted for the battery of the current iPhone and could power the phone for a full week.
The report also indicated that the hydrogen was stored at low pressure in some form of powdered medium. The fuel cell could be refilled through an gas inlet port converted from the headphone jack.
Intelligent Energy's iPhone fuel cell demonstrates impressive energy density, able to store about 4 KWh/liter. If the technology scales approximately as the current device, which is likely, then a gallon sized container would hold about 15 KWh. Just 6 of these gallon containers would store as much energy as the Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) Model S 85 KWh battery pack.
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LOL those suckers need a lot of amps, so one hog at the trough at a time.
Apple is wasting their money.
When the car breaks down do you have to tow it to the Apple Genius’s Garage?
You stirred a memory.
I remember reading a science fiction story with a similar story line. It was delivery trucks and they ran on rails. But the rails were different sizes going to different locations, so one had to have an adapter to change wheelbase width or one could only use certain roads (tracks).
Also one had to deal with the truck bed vs. the loading dock. Some were male, some female, so if you had a male bed and the location had a male dock, you had to have an adapter.
The story was a a satire of the PC - IBM situation. Remember having to get adapters for your keyboard, mouse, printer cables every time IBM put out a new PC ?
Traveling through Oregon last week there was a Tesla charging station with about six units. And there was a Tesla plugged into one as the owner had gone into the Starbucks next door. Nice looking car.
I wonder if the media will ever report the fact that 95% of hydrogen is made from fossil fuels
There is a reason for that. Quick charging batteries is expensive unless you have a Tesla. The dirty little secret with electric vehicles is they are designed for slower charging. Constant quick charging of batteries is bad for battery life. I suspect this is one of the reasons Tesla told some of their car owners to quit hogging the free chargers..
No sh!t?
So loud music really COULD make your eardrums explode...
It grows on trees, crazy fast...
So where did the carbon go? If they tell me it is vented as CO2 then my SVT Cobra is a hybrid. It burns gas and rubber. And vents CO2 and water out the tailpipe.
Now we're talking.
Your muscle car is probably 25% efficient, that is 25% of the energy in gasoline reaches the wheels.
They can make a case that electricity can be generated at 50% efficiency, lose 15% in transmission and charging, but still ahead of the game.
But it's not a big difference.
And global warming may be better than cooling at this point in the long term climate cycle. We have no way of knowing.
Your Cobra might be doing us a favor.
An iCar?
The ones at my work in San Jose are used constantly. People mainly spend the big bucks to go electric so they can use the carpool lanes and beat the horrendous traffic jams. You are allotted a certain amount of time at the charger, then you get a text message “Your time is up!” People leave meetings to go move their cars. People get invoiced for the power they buy, but at ridiculously low rates.
Oh, the huge GIF.
apple is going to hydrogen route? I don’t think Steve Jobs would make a stupid mistake like this
I have a fuel-cell powered toy car, bought it at a huge discount (about $12 instead of $150). It uses a catalyst to convert hydrogen and oxygen into electricity to power an electric motor to propel the car, and creates water as a by-product. A solar panel will generate the electricity necessary to convert the water into hydrogen and oxygen and stores it ready for the car to use again. Alternatively, a battery will provide the electricity to "create" the hydrogen. An external electricity source can also be used.
The toy car is just that, a toy that demonstrates fuel-cells. However, I found the process very wasteful. Much power was wasted creating a small amount of hydrogen. The electricity used to create the hydrogen, would have been better used to directly power the electric motor instead of being wasted creating the hydrogen.
Obviously, with this toy car the hydrogen is not being burned in a combustion process as with a normal car. Just wanted to point out that hydrogen can be split from water via electricity and a catalyst.
I can’t think of a good reason for a commercial produced Apple car... but I sure can see some technological value in the exercise. It’s much like the stuff we benefit from today, developed for/by NASA and for the racing industry -
Makes me wonder if the fuel cell mentioned involves an alcohol or gas fuel.
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