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Don't Be Apple
TechCrunch ^ | August 22, 2015 | Jon Evans

Posted on 08/22/2015 10:43:19 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker

From the article you quoted: “Maybe, as this contrast heightens, Apple will see the light; maybe instead of fighting jailbreakers, they will offer jailbreaking and sideloading as an option for power users out of the box, just as Android does. “

Up until now you couldn’t sideload an app onto your iPhone unless you had a developer license. At least as far as I knew you couldn’t. The new Xcode 7 allows it.


41 posted on 08/24/2015 12:44:57 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: dennisw
Lol....my friend needs none of that and certainly is not going to blow another $2000 on an Apple laptop that does. My friend lives in the real world of websurfing and light office applications. His new $500 Toshiba will do the trick. With 8gb ram and i5 processor he is all set. .

The plural of anecdote is not data, DennisW, but it is lies. Where did I say anything about any $2000 Apple Laptop? Since you say "another $2000" you are implying a cost of $2500. That's a lie. . . usual for you. Apple Laptops can be had from Apple.com for as low as $759.00.

42 posted on 08/24/2015 12:47:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: generally
Up until now you couldn’t sideload an app onto your iPhone unless you had a developer license. At least as far as I knew you couldn’t. The new Xcode 7 allows it.

Side loading apps and other data from OS X is how syncing works. The apps which are stored on iTunes on your OS X computer can be re-installed or even installed from there, if they were downloaded there. It requires a valid AppleID on both devices, and proper handshaking between the devices. It is not as easy as you seem to think. It has always been there.

43 posted on 08/24/2015 1:10:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Short and simple:

Look at other OS versions - and look at the massive and common security issues, bug issues, trojans, viruses, etc...

Now look at iOS...

There was a time when I liked my iPhone “Jailbroken” so I could install “other” stuff... but Apple has opened up a bit, adopted some of the features I went through the trouble for prior... and now I don’t miss having a jailbroken device. And I don’t miss the bugs and nastiness that could (and for many, does) come in with the other stuff...

But hey - I just want my devices to work.

And when you consider that other OS developers have been more than cooperative with the Feds - opening doors, and even providing infrastructure for your data to go directly to them... While Apple has generally held the line...


44 posted on 08/24/2015 1:18:16 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Swordmaker

I know how to launch a terminal window on a Mac! I read your original post as suggesting that an attacker could get root access on an iPhone with two taps on the screen.


45 posted on 08/24/2015 1:54:56 PM PDT by dinodino
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I know how to launch a terminal window on a Mac! I read your original post as suggesting that an attacker could get root access on an iPhone with two taps on the screen.

No, dinodino, that was not my suggestion at all. I was pointing out to someone who was claiming that Apple Macs were so disabled that no one could do anything with them at all. . . He was one of those who has been repeatedly pushing the idea that Macs are "toy" computers, incapable of anything more sophisticated than browsing and getting email. I certainly was not implying ROOT access was available with two clicks without the correct passwords, just that a user who had such access could reach a Terminal from the desktop and have full control of the power of a UNIX computer, and that it was not crippled as they were claiming. Nor were either of us talking abut an iPhone. . . which is locked down pretty damn tightly.

Sorry we both misapprehended the other.

46 posted on 08/24/2015 2:15:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

I think I’ll head over to the Religion threads, it is less contentious over there!


47 posted on 08/24/2015 2:54:38 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Swordmaker

15” mac book pro is $2,499.00 and $1999.00 if you cheap out and I know you would never cheap out. Hey granny who wants to do email from her grandchildren and watch youtube videos. I have a nice large screen 15” mac book for you only $2,499.00.....

lol lol lol lol lol


48 posted on 08/24/2015 5:34:40 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

Sorry for the mistake. I spend all day long using the shell on a Mac, and my preferred development “environment” is vi.


49 posted on 08/24/2015 7:28:00 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Swordmaker
Thanks for including me./s

Weight has nothing to do with quality and shouldn't be a point of comparison when comparing quality. The weight of the laptop/notebook is a personal preference. That being said most people don't like to carry a heavy computer. As well, the average laptop/notebook weighs less than 8 lbs. As America has become the land of the lazy, I can see why this is a selling point but again has nothing to do with quality.
50 posted on 08/24/2015 7:45:08 PM PDT by PJBankard (If I had something clever to say, I would have put it in my post.)
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I can see why this is a selling point but again has nothing to do with quality.

Actually it does. . . and it effects cost. It costs to get it high quality and low weight and long battery life. These are all engineering trade-offs that are balanced to find the ideal laptop. YOU try toting around a six pound, long hour life, with high-quality screened laptop around campus with books, accessories, and other things a student must carry and you will find that weight is a big consideration in quality in a portable computer.

Apple has succeeded in making a very high quality portable computer with a high quality screen, that provides up to 14 hours of battery life, in a package that weighs under 2 pounds. Eight pounds is a behemoth. . . and will still come no where near that length of battery life.

51 posted on 08/24/2015 8:36:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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15” mac book pro is $2,499.00 and $1999.00 if you cheap out and I know you would never cheap out. Hey granny who wants to do email from her grandchildren and watch youtube videos. I have a nice large screen 15” mac book for you only $2,499.00.....

Who said anyone needs a 15"? A 13.3" Macbook Pro is $1399. . . nicely equipped. I don't WANT a large screen. Did I even say I was comparing MacBook Pros??? No. I did not. You love to bring up strawman arguments to shoot down. If you'd look, you can configure a Toshiba 15" and a Dell 15" to match that Apple MacBook Pro as well and find that they are actually MORE expensive than the Macbook Pro! I know, I've done it. You obviously haven't because you always assume your junker is the same, when it obviously isn't.

You see, DennisW, you want to compare the highest, top of the line professional MacBook Pro, with the bottom of the barrel discounted Windows junk. . . and then CROW at the top of your lungs, as you caper around dancing maniacally,

"SEE! SEE! SEE! Apple is more expensive than this piece of crap junker I found on sale! SEE! SEE! SEE!" . . . when you've proved nothing except your ignorance and idiotic opinion that junk is the same as quality. . . it is the equivalent of opining that a Nissan Versa is the same as a Lexus or a Jaguar because they all have four wheels, an engine, and can use the same roads.

52 posted on 08/24/2015 8:52:12 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Granny actually wanted a 17” laptop because her eyes are not too good.... But she was willing to go with a 15” laptop.

So just as I predicted you are going to send granny down to a piddling 13.3” screen Apple laptop because you know the 2000-2500$ that Apple charges for 15” is greedy and ridiculous.

You are out of your gourd if you expect granny to go for this downgrade scam. She will get a $500 Toshiba/Windows10/8GB/ i5/15” and be very happy. If we look hard enough we can probably get a 17” on same specs and price.

For granny’s email and websurfing the $500 Toshiba wikll work out great! Why should she pay more money to the odious crew in Cupertino?


53 posted on 08/25/2015 5:12:29 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Once again your AppleBot arrogance shines through. Toshiba laptops are very good builds these days and comparable to Apple. Apple just charges more and hipsters/gays/jaded urbanites like the status they get from toting around Apple gadgets and laptops to the local Starbucks etc etc


54 posted on 08/25/2015 5:15:37 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: PJBankard
Weight has nothing to do with quality and shouldn't be a point of comparison when comparing quality. The weight of the laptop/notebook is a personal preference. That being said most people don't like to carry a heavy computer. As well, the average laptop/notebook weighs less than 8 lbs. As America has become the land of the lazy, I can see why this is a selling point but again has nothing to do with quality.

If you travel a lot then you want a light laptop. But weight is irrelevant for most. People I know buy a laptop that is kept in one place at home. It is used as a desktop replacement because they are so much smaller, so less clutter.

55 posted on 08/25/2015 5:28:56 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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