Posted on 07/27/2015 8:52:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Its a few days before Windows 10 is officially slated to drop, and still, confusion abounds. Worse, many fallacies regarding Microsofts plans around upgrades and support for Win10 remain in circulation, despite efforts to dispel them.
Here at InfoWorld, we've been tracking Windows 10s progress very closely, reporting the evolving technical details with each successive build in our popular Where Windows 10 stands right now report. Weve also kept a close eye on the details beyond the bits, reporting on the common misconceptions around Windows 10 licensing, upgrade paths, and updates. If you havent already read that article, you may want to give it a gander. Many of the fallacies we pointed out six weeks ago are still as fallacious today -- and youll hear them repeated as fact by people who should know better.[ For all the latest updates on Microsoft's operating system, see "Where Windows 10 stands right now." | Prepare for a future without Internet Explorer before you're left behind. | Stay up on key Microsoft technologies with the Microsoft newsletter. ]
Here, with Windows 10 nearing the finish line, we once again cut through the fictions to give you the true dirt -- and one juicy conjecture -- about Windows 10, in hopes of helping you make the right decisions regarding Microsofts latest Windows release when it officially lands July 29.
Give or take a few last-minute patches, members of the Windows Insider program may already have what will be the final version of Win10. Build 10240, with applied patches, has all the hallmarks of a first final general availability version.
If youre in the Insider program, either Fast or Slow ring, and your computers been connected to the Internet recently, youve already upgraded, automatically, to the Windows 10 thats likely headed out on July 29. No, I cant prove it. But all the tea leaves point in that direction. Dont be surprised if Terry Myerson announces on July 29 that Insiders are already running the real Windows 10 -- and have been running it for a couple of weeks. Everyone else can get a feel for the likely final Windows 10, build 10240, by checking out our ongoing Windows 10 beta coverage at Where Windows stands right now.
Like Windows Vista, Win7, and Win8 before it, Windows 10 has a 10-year support cycle. In fact, were getting a few extra months for free: According to the Windows Lifecycle fact sheet, mainstream support ends Oct. 13, 2020, and extended support ends Oct. 14, 2025. Of course, if your sound card manufacturer, say, stops supporting Windows 10, youre out of luck.
I have no idea where Microsofts statement about covering Windows 10 for the supported lifetime of the device came from. It sounds like legalese that was used to waffle around the topic for seven frustrating months. Microsofts publication of the Lifecycle fact sheet shows that Windows 10 will be supported like any other version of Windows. (XPs dates were a little different because of SP2.)
Theres been absolutely nothing from Microsoft to support the claim that the Win10 support clock starts when you buy or install Windows 10, a claim that has been attributed to an industry analyst.
The new Windows 10 lifecycle and updating requirements look a lot like the old ones, except theyre accelerated a bit. In the past we had Service Packs, and people had a few months to get the Service Packs installed before they became a prerequisite for new patches. With Windows 8.1, we had the ill-fated Update 1: You had to install Update 1 before you could get new patches, and you only had a month (later extended) to get Update 1 working. The new Windows 10 method -- requiring customers to install upgrades/fixes/patches sequentially, in set intervals -- looks a whole lot like the old Win 8.1 Update 1 approach, although corporate customers in the Long Term Servicing Branch can delay indefinitely.
Although it isnt clear how long youll be able to continue to use it, the Windows 10 build 10240 ISO can be installed and used without a product key. Presumably, at some point in the future youll be able to feed it a new key (from, say, MSDN), or buy one and use it retroactively.
A common misconception is that you can upgrade, for free, from Windows 7 Home Basic or Home Premium, Windows 8.1 (commonly called Home or Core), or Windows 8.1 with Bing, to Windows 10 Pro. Nope, sorry -- all of those will upgrade to Windows 10 Home. To get to Windows 10 Pro, you would then have to pay for an upgrade, from Win10 Home to Pro.
According to Microsoft, if you upgrade a genuine copy of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update, come July 29 or later, Windows 10 wont require a product key. Instead, keep Home and Pro versions separate -- upgrade Home to Home, Pro to Pro. If you upgrade and perform a Reset (Start, Settings, Update & Security, Recovery, Reset this PC) you get a clean install of Windows 10 -- again, per Microsoft. Itll take a few months to be absolutely certain that a Reset performs an absolutely clean install, but at this point, it certainly looks that way.
Another common misconception is that Microsoft requires users have a Microsoft account to install, use, or manage Windows 10. In fact, local accounts will work for any normal Windows 10 activity, although you need to provide a Microsoft account in the obvious places (for example, to get mail), with Cortana, and to sync Edge.
Microsoft has announced it will release a new version of Windows RT, called Windows RT 3, in September. If anybodys expecting it to look anything like Windows 10, youre sorely mistaken. If you bought the original Surface or Surface RT, youre out of luck. Microsoft sold folks an obsolete bucket of bolts that, sad to say, deserves to die. Compare that with the Chromebook, which is still chugging along.
One word here seems to be tripping up folks. What Microsoft has pulled is Windows Media Center, which is a horse of a completely different color. If youre thinking of upgrading your Windows Media Center machine to Windows 10, youre better off retiring it and buying something that actually works like a media center. WMP is still there, although I wonder why anybody would use it, with great free alternatives like VLC readily available.
In my experience, Windows 10 build 10240 (and thus, presumably, the final version) is quite stable and reasonably fast, and it works very well. There are anomalies -- taskbar icons disappear, some characters dont show up, you cant change the picture for the Lock Screen, lots of settings are undocumented -- and entire waves of features arent built yet. But for day-to-day operation, Win10 works fine.
Microsoft has built some outstanding universal apps on the WinRT foundation, including the Office trilogy, Edge, Cortana, and several lesser apps, such as the Mail/Calendar twins, Solitaire, OneNote, and the Store. But other software developers have, by and large, ignored the WinRT/universal shtick. You have to wonder why Microsoft itself wasnt able to get a universal OneDrive or Skype app going in time for July 29. Even Rovio has given a pass on Angry Birds 2 for the universal platform. Some games are coming (such as Rise of the Tomb Raider), but dont expect a big crop of apps for the universal side of Windows 10 (and, presumably, Windows 10 Mobile) any time soon.
I hear variations on this theme all the time, and its tinfoil-hat hooey. Microsoft is shifting to a different way of making money with Windows. Along the way, it's trying out a lot of moves to reinvigorate the aging cash cow. Total world domination isnt one of the options. And, no, the company isn't going to charge you rent for Windows 10, though it took seven months to say so, in writing.
Win7 and Win8 machines wont quite upgrade directly to Win10. You need Windows 7 Service Pack 1, or Windows 8.1 Update 1, in order to perform the upgrade. If you dont have Windows 7 SP1, Microsoft has official instructions thatll get you there from Windows 7. If youre still using Windows 8, follow these official instructions to get to Windows 8.1 Update. Technically, theres a middle step on your way to Win10.
If theres an Achilles heel in the grand Windows 10 scheme, its forced updates for Windows 10 Home users and Pro users not attached to update servers. As long as Microsoft rolls out good-enough-quality patches -- as it's done for the past three months -- theres little to fear. But if a real stinker ever gets pushed out, heaven only knows how, and how well, Microsoft will handle it.
There isnt one, single killer app that you desperately need on July 29. Those in the know have mountains of questions, some of which wont be answered until we see how Win10 really works and what Microsoft does to support it. If you want to play with Windows 10 on a test machine, knock yourself out. I will, too. But only a certified masochist would entrust a working PC to Windows 10, until its been pushed and shoved and taken round several blocks, multiple times.
You have until July 29, 2016, to take advantage of the free upgrade. Theres no rush. Microsoft wont run out of bits.
THe most recent update to WIn8.1 is crappy and made my system run badly...intended to drive me to Win10. I will, because 8.1 is so bad.
Windows 10? What happened to Windows 1? I’m still on XP and loving it.
Every time we see a new version of Windows, we are told “it fast”. Of course it’s fast, it is a NEW installation. If I re-install Windows 7, it will be faster than my current installation.
bfl
“Fiction: Microsoft pulled Windows Media Player from Windows 10
One word here seems to be tripping up folks. What Microsoft has pulled is Windows Media Center, which is a horse of a completely different color. If youre thinking of upgrading your Windows Media Center machine to Windows 10, youre better off retiring it and buying something that actually works like a media center. WMP is still there, although I wonder why anybody would use it, with great free alternatives like VLC readily available.”
The real fiction is that MS believes people use WMC only for dvd playback. It’s actually used for dvr purposes in a HTPC. Killing WMC kills the dvr functionality. Therefore I have NO USE for win10 in my HTPC setup.
Fact- Microsoft will force home users into automatic updates with no ability to skip an update or delay an update
fact- windows new start menu SUCKS and is NOT like windows 7- not completely- leave my windows 7 start menu alone!
Rumor- once everyone has windows 10- it will go to a cloud based monthly pay system much like adobe creative suite has done- you won’t ‘own’ your own copy, but will be ‘renting’ it from Microsoft on a per month basis
” leave my windows 7 start menu alone!”
Why did you go to Windows 7 from whatever you had before?
Can’t you evolve?
Do you comprehend the internet, computers, software ..all digital tech changes rapidly?
Did you go to flat screen, digital TV from CRT?
WHY?
Heck I really liked the old Tandy Deskmate GUI but there came a time to move on.
[[Do you comprehend the internet, computers, software ..all digital tech changes rapidly?]]
Whatever fella- have fine with your condescending snide remarks- I have my reasons why I like what I like and why I DISLIKE the changes made- Change is NOT always for the better!
I've tried both and they don't work for what I need. Personal weather stations for example.
Change for change sake is NOT always for the good, I agree. I also believe that resisting change just to resist it is also not good.
Heck, I wish I still had my '56 Plymouth Savoy wagon, '58 Buick Invicta wagon or my '67 Mustang convertible.
Right now I drive a '98 Durango that I LOVE but it's time to let go.
I grew up with something similar to this but don't miss it for a minute.
[[would be fine with us all being absorbed by the Apple/Linux Borg.]]
Been trying all kinds of distros of Linux- can’t stand them
[[I also believe that resisting change just to resist it is also not good]]
I’m not against change- but when I buy a car, I expect the gas pedal to be on the floor- not In the glove compartment or hidden under the carpet somewhere- Windows 97, windows 98, windows xp, windows 7 all have perfectly functional start menues which didn’t need to be messed with or to have functions removed from it- Some htigns should be universal, like the position of a gas pedal in a vehicle, or the rearview mirror, or the blinker lever- they shouldn’t be continually moved around just for the sake of change-
I also do NOT like being forced into automatic updates for a myriad of reasons, nor do I like the prospect of possible move to a cloud based service where we have to pay monthly fees- although this is just speculation at this point on this issue-
I’m not against change- but I AM all for leaving what works alone, or at the very least give users the choice to use the TRUE classic menu- and not some abominable hybrid mix
There’s also an issue with ‘phone home’ apps which I’m not crazy about- but that’s a separate issue-
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