New Steve Jobs biopic is shaping up to be Apple’s worst nightmare

Venture Beats ^ | July 2, 2015 | by Chris O'Brien

[Swordmaker]

The Isaacson book (I have the unabridged audio version) is probably the basis for this movie?

It is. . .

[Talisker]

Considering the ego’s in Silicon Valley and Steve’s success in getting fully tested products into the logistics chain and out the door it may be more of a lesson in discipline.

Apple has always made great products, and their sense of design is literally second to none. But the actual professionals who made, and make, all that happen did not ever include Steve Jobs. He took their credit, but that's all. He drove away many true professionals, who left literally because he made them choose between Apple and their own personal integrity. He wasn't merely an egomaniac or an @sshole - he liked to hurt people deep inside themselves. IMHO, he was a truly evil person.

But he could indeed huckster and shuffle and make backroom mega-deals, and bring in the big bucks - and I guess that's all that really matters in this world. So if Apple ever tanks, it won't be because of lack of brilliant professionals or an inability to make great products - it will be because Jobs deliberately choose a replacement for himself who is inept. Yeah, Jobs would sabotage Apple so people would think it was always ever about him. Because Apple is insanely great in so many ways, but Jobs was just insane.

[Boogieman]

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Apple has made great products and BetaMax was a great product.

Logistics was really what Apple was about. Steve’s perfectionism is what Apple was about.

You have to kick ass to get things done on that level and heap rewards when it gets done.

It’s just human nature.

Apple has really gone from vertical to horizontal. Some of their verticals are suffering from buggy releases because of it.

Apple Pay, gimicky watch, stupid OSX Bugs, stupid IOS Bugs, Beats, Health, and the list goes on. Not much revolutionary these days.

[Swordmaker]

Apple has always made great products, and their sense of design is literally second to none. But the actual professionals who made, and make, all that happen did not ever include Steve Jobs. He took their credit, but that's all. He drove away many true professionals, who left literally because he made them choose between Apple and their own personal integrity. He wasn't merely an egomaniac or an @sshole - he liked to hurt people deep inside themselves. IMHO, he was a truly evil person.

No, you are wrong. Steve Jobs forced his ideas of what made a good product on those designers and engineers, not the other way around. He DIRECTED the development. This is quite clear from talking to the people who were there. If Steve did not like what they presented to him, he made them go back and do it over until he liked what they came up with. . . and often gave explicit instructions on what he wanted. You really do not know what you are talking about on this. "No" is often more important than "yes" in coming up with great products. . . and that is what makes the difference in Apple products from other makers' products. Steve knew when to say "no" and when to say "yes." That was Steve Jobs' genius.

[Dr. Ursus]

You worship Shmuckberg too,really?

[Swordmaker]

You worship Shmuckberg too,really?

You read a lot into a negative comment about Sorkin, don't you. I don't like any of Sorkin's work.

[Talisker]

This is quite clear from talking to the people who were there.

I was there.

Sorry if that clashes with your talking points.

[dennisw]

Put Jobs mug on the face of the Apple watch. Gays can get Chairman Tim’s.

[TheBattman]

Hasn’t this story already been told on the screen?