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The Dishonorable Confederate Battle Flag (Barf)
National Review Online ^ | June 22, 2015 | Jason Lee Steorts

Posted on 06/22/2015 10:29:44 AM PDT by C19fan

Whether you think it’s all right for South Carolina to fly a Confederate battle flag over a Confederate memorial on its capitol grounds depends on whether you think that the Confederate war dead should be honored. If you do, then you can, as David French does, see the flag as a symbol of their valor and skill while decrying its use by white supremacists. This strikes me as a whitewash of both the flag and the Confederacy. The Confederacy was a rebellion founded on the incoherent idea that the sovereign authority of the United States might be shucked off at the states’ pleasure, and the Confederacy’s primary reason for being was to preserve racial slavery — that is, to violate natural rights rather than to secure them. That is what Confederate soldiers fought for. Whatever else their battle flag may mean, it has to mean that. It did not become a banner of white supremacy in the mid 20th century when racial segregationists took it up. It was a banner of white supremacy, and of lawlessness, from the beginning.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: confederacy; dixie; dylannroof
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This is not from MSNBC of The Nation but from a senior editor on the National Review staff. This makes this even more disgusting.
1 posted on 06/22/2015 10:29:44 AM PDT by C19fan
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There are people here nodding their heads in agreement, believe it or not. And where does it end? What will they demand next?


2 posted on 06/22/2015 10:31:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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This strikes me as a whitewash of both the flag and the Confederacy.

I feel your pain. You strike me as a pansy who thinks everyone should be judged by their obedience to liberal shiboleths, whether those people accept them or not. I bet neither of our irritants goes away.

3 posted on 06/22/2015 10:32:58 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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I just ordered a “An Appeal to Heaven” flag to fly during the week of Independence Day, along with my other Revolutionary War era flags. Hope it pisses off some libs. We can have a discussion about it...


4 posted on 06/22/2015 10:33:00 AM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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The same pillow biter who ran Mark Steyn off and recently spilled oceans of ink to say that those opposed to gay marriage were just selfish meanies.

He is odious.


5 posted on 06/22/2015 10:34:03 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What will they demand next?”

IMO, your land, your property, your money all because it was (in their minds) “earned off the backs of slaves”.....and finally they will demand you and I leave THEIR country. Sound paranoid? I hope that I am.


6 posted on 06/22/2015 10:35:50 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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This is up to SC. Personally, I don’t care. I think if you are not in SC your opinion on this is as valid as any other person out of SC. And that means it doesn’t count.


7 posted on 06/22/2015 10:36:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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>>> ..... depends on whether you think that the Confederate war dead should be honored

Really? It’s that simple? Or is this how National Review sees us?


8 posted on 06/22/2015 10:37:27 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: relictele

“pillow biter”

Is that the same as a pole smoking, butthole surfing, rump ranger, turd burglar?.....Just asking.

Apologies to anyone offended, couldn’t help it.


9 posted on 06/22/2015 10:37:59 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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Storts is a pro-homo marriage, pro-big government. pro-amnesty editor at National Review.

The mag is dead. Move along.


10 posted on 06/22/2015 10:39:28 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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It’s amazing what that flag does! It gets off the pole and runs around America killing people. This is worse than killer tomatoes!


11 posted on 06/22/2015 10:41:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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Its the cross of St. Andrew, the cross of the Scots and the Southern people. They want to take our cross away. And next, they will take the other crosses away, for they, too, are called ‘symbols of hate’ by the God haters.


12 posted on 06/22/2015 10:41:57 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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Jason Lee Steorts is homosexual, who supports "gay" (sic) "marriage" (double sic), who believes in AGW, and thinks Trayvon was an innocent teen ...

William F. Buckley must be spinning in his grave over what purports to be conservatism at the current version of his NR.

13 posted on 06/22/2015 10:42:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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You’ve discriminated against fudge-packers! Bad conservative, bad!


14 posted on 06/22/2015 10:42:53 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; rockrr

Sadly a guy like rockrr could have written this.


15 posted on 06/22/2015 10:44:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Still Thinking

Oh yeah, sorry I faggot....er, I mean forgot that one. :) lol


16 posted on 06/22/2015 10:46:00 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: olepap

I agree. I’m going to order several Stars and Bars today and pass them out to my friends who have the guts to fly them.


17 posted on 06/22/2015 10:46:21 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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“The Confederacy was a rebellion founded on the incoherent idea that the sovereign authority of the United States might be shucked off at the states’ pleasure, and the Confederacy’s primary reason for being was to preserve racial slavery — that is, to violate natural rights rather than to secure them.”

That “rebellion” idea was used by the Federals to rob and murder countless Southern civilians. And there was more than the slavery dynamic that resulted in war. The Confederate flag in question was a late-comer to the war; it was General Lee’s flag and they were fighting an invading army. Is the sovereign authority of the United States, located in the government, a divine right? The federal government was created at the states’ pleasure, and the general idea at the time was that they could leave at their pleasure. But what can you expect from a man who likes to see two men marrying? I suppose he wants to see himself in that union.


18 posted on 06/22/2015 10:46:38 AM PDT by odawg
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“IMO, your land, your property, your money all because it was (in their minds) “earned off the backs of slaves”.....and finally they will demand you and I leave THEIR country.”

You are essentially quoting Robert Mugabe.


19 posted on 06/22/2015 10:47:03 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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They;re going to anger all those DEMOCRATS !
They're going to make the descendants of DEMOCRAT Ernest Frederick "Fritz" Hollings, 76th Governor of the State of South Carolina, 1959 to 1963, very angry.

20 posted on 06/22/2015 10:49:26 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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