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In support of Trade Promotion Authority
http://stevedeace.com ^ | June 17, 2015 | Joel Kurtinitis

Posted on 06/17/2015 12:34:28 PM PDT by Lucky9teen

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1 posted on 06/17/2015 12:34:28 PM PDT by Lucky9teen
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To: Lucky9teen

In addition the House version of TPA has adopted the Cruz/ Sessions language on Immigration.

I think the opposition to the TPA bill has been fueled by the intentional misinformation and confusion that has been unleashed on the public. The more I studied it, the more I saw the merits.


2 posted on 06/17/2015 12:42:07 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Lucky9teen

The US Constitution grants CONGRESS the authority to regulate commerce with foreign nations. It SHOULD NOT be ceding its power to the Executive, and then allow itself only a yes or no (which is always yes by the way).

They’re always trying to get around that pesky Consitution.


3 posted on 06/17/2015 12:43:59 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Lucky9teen

A lot of articles about this issue do not seem to understand the difference between TPA and TPP. Ted Cruz explained the difference very well recently.


4 posted on 06/17/2015 12:44:33 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: conservativejoy

Never give obama and the democrats an inch. They will take and destroy the country if they have that opportunity.


5 posted on 06/17/2015 12:44:38 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: conservativejoy

With Maobama, it doesn’t matter what it says. Whatever he says it is is what it will be. I totally reject this deal.


6 posted on 06/17/2015 12:45:23 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The wheel of fortune changes everything. Don't lose your head now." "Riyadh" by Al Stewart)
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To: Lucky9teen

“Congress may withdraw TPA at any time if the President fails to follow all terms set forth in TPA – including reporting to Congress at the discretion of at least three different congressional committees.”

What nonsense. Congress can only do this BY LAW, which would then be vetoed by the president (if it even got that far). So deceptive!


7 posted on 06/17/2015 12:45:44 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Lucky9teen

Is there some other riders on this bill that might be objectionable? Or is this a clean bill?


8 posted on 06/17/2015 12:47:29 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington.)
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To: conservativejoy

Obama trade is bad for Jobs. Obamatrade allows his communist regime to negociate TPP. Anyone for obamatrade should be ashamed and will be politically damaged. Why are we allowing obama trade? it is RINO madness.


9 posted on 06/17/2015 12:48:45 PM PDT by mrs ippi (Stop obamatrade now!!)
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To: cotton1706

Apparently, GOP now stands for Give Obama Power. I’m so sick and disgusted with them. I’ll hold my nose to vote for Cruz, but even that is against my better judgement at this point.


10 posted on 06/17/2015 12:50:50 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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To: oldbrowser
The text of the bill is available here.
11 posted on 06/17/2015 12:52:27 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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To: mrs ippi

You do understand this is about TPA (the bill about procedures FOR the trade deal) and not TPP (the trade deal)?


12 posted on 06/17/2015 12:53:17 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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To: minnesota_bound

If you carefully read the particulars of the article, you’ll see that TPA does the opposite of giving Obama power. I like that it mandates the 60 day public disclosure before a vote can take place. It also requires that Congress be involved throughout the negotiations and sets restrictions on what the President can and can’t do. Any breach of the set parameters of negotiations renders the agreement null and void.

The vote for TPP will not be held in all likelihood before late 2016, and with so many up for re election it will be defeated. Never have we had this much distrust of a President and the scrutiny that this agreement will receive will be unprecedented.

The bonus of passing TPA will be that the next President will have it for almost 5 years. The Dems won’t let that happen if they take back the Senate.


13 posted on 06/17/2015 12:53:35 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: cotton1706

You fail to understand that this is written into the TPA bill, so it WILL BE able to be withdrawn if terms aren’t met.

Hence the need FOR the TPA, to begin with.


14 posted on 06/17/2015 12:57:35 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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To: Lucky9teen

He offers no explanation as to why Obama has broken so many wrists and arms to get TPA passed. None, Nada, zipo. So I am to believe that Obama is crushing dem heads to rein in his power? Horsesh-t.


15 posted on 06/17/2015 12:58:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Lucky9teen

It’s a nice straw man. What should require a 2/3 vote in the Senate for passage is changed to 51 votes with the TPA. Why don’t the supporters ever address this little sleight of hand?


16 posted on 06/17/2015 12:58:29 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: cotton1706

Did you read the article? Because if you did, you would see that is exactly the point FOR the TPA.


17 posted on 06/17/2015 12:59:02 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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To: Lucky9teen
You do understand this is about TPA (the bill about procedures FOR the trade deal) and not TPP (the trade deal)?

You can't unlink them, no matter how hard you try. If TPA passes, then so too will TPP, and then there goes the ship.

18 posted on 06/17/2015 12:59:30 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: conservativejoy
I like that it mandates the 60 day public disclosure before a vote can take place.

Never mind the inconvenient fact that TPP has a five-year secrecy clause.

19 posted on 06/17/2015 1:00:44 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Lucky9teen
No its the same thing. TPP has already been negotiated. After they finished they realized that it would never pass with the absolute requirement of 2/3 vote of the Senate.
So they ( after the bill was finished and can only be read in secret) came up with this scheme to subvert the constitution. It goes like this— Let us “bring back” the TPP and you can only vote it up or down. If you vote it “Down” under the terms of the TPA, it goes as a bill to the President who ,of course , VETOS IT!!! then to over ride his damned veto— they have to have a 2/3 over ride. Isn't that cute? You did know that — Right? Do you see the insidious ploy?
20 posted on 06/17/2015 1:07:42 PM PDT by mrs ippi (Stop obamatrade now!!)
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