In support of Trade Promotion Authority

http://stevedeace.com ^ | June 17, 2015 | Joel Kurtinitis

[Timber Rattler]

Congress still has to pass it.

You've been around long enough to know how things work in Congress, and how corrupt it is. McConnell, Boehner, and Obama are huddling right now trying to figure out how to subvert the will of the people, and here you are buying their snake oil.

You know better than that!

[dware]

So NAFTA was passed with the help of TPA?

[tennmountainman]

Who are you to determine what gets discussed on this site.

Does it make you happy that many Americans will lose their job over Obamatrade.

[Timber Rattler]

Leaked TISA Documents Reveal Privacy Threat

[Timber Rattler]

Yep.

[cotton1706]

“I think TPA strengthens Congress’s role by requiring their involvement from the beginning of negotiations and putting restrictions on the President. TPA lays out the parameters of negotiation from the beginning.”

Congress is ALREADY required to be involved from the beginning. They are empowered by the Constitution with the SOLE authority to “regulate commerce with foreign nations.”

But with TPA, they are ceding that power to the president, and will be leaving themselves only a yes or a no. Do you honestly think Obama and the foreign negotiators will care about congress’ stated “parameters”?? They will know that whatever they put into a Trade deal will be strong-armed through, no matter what the people scream about. Boehner and McConnell and Obama will GET THIS DEAL THROUGH by hook or by crook, just at they are going to GET TPA THROUGH by hook or by crook. They’re already “fast-tracking” a vote tomorrow, while the congressmen’s arms are still sore from the arm-twisting and their heads are still spinning from the threats and bribery.

[DugwayDuke]

Again, what five year secrecy clause? Your link does not answer the question.

[Timber Rattler]

Wikileaks has released 17 documents relating to the Trade in Services Agreement (TISA), currently under negotiation between the US, the European Union and 23 other nations. These negotiating texts are supposed to remain secret for five years after TISA is finalized and brought into force.

The deal, which has been under discussion behind closed doors since early 2013, is intended to remove barriers to trade in services. It’s a sort of companion piece to the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which cover trade in goods – but potentially far bigger, with Wikileaks claiming that ‘services’ now account for nearly 80 per cent of the US and EU economies.

Like TTIP and TPP, TISA could be sped through Congress using Trade Promotion Authority (TPA), also known as fast-track authority, which has been passed by the US Senate and may be taken up in the House this month. Under TPA, Congress is barred from making amendments to the trade deals, and most simply give yes-or-no approval.

[conservativejoy]

It was one of a plethora of trade deals that was passed. Anything that has passed basically since Roosevelt.

[conservativejoy]

If TPA fails trade negotiation defaults back to the President, who will not hesitate to act unilaterally.

[conservativejoy]

Well, that’s the friggin’ law if TPA is passed. No trade deal can go through without the vote of Congress.

[Timber Rattler]

No trade deal can go through without the vote of Congress.

A vote pre-rigged in FAVOR of Obama if TPA passes.

[crosdaddy]

With all that is wrong with this country right now; out of control spending,demoralized military,EPA run amok,ditto IRS ,commie core,NLRB ,activist judiciary,on going trade deficits,obamacare,incredibly weak,outright dangerous foreign policy,etc,etc,etc,.
Why are there a handful of people on this forum that are acting like this fast track/ trade treaties are the most absolute important thing to be focused on right now?????
Hey look everybody,the ship is going down,let’s rearrange the deck chairs!!!
This smells,and it smells real bad.

[Tzfat]

TPP is not going to happen.

How telling. Then why pass TPA and TAA? Too much spin. Face it, Cruz is on the wrong side of this, and your continued excuses only make it look worse.

[cotton1706]

“If TPA fails trade negotiation defaults back to the President, who will not hesitate to act unilaterally.”

Where do you come up with these silly notions? Why would the president be FIGHTING to get something passed that LIMITS his authority. In your above premise, wouldn’t he be fighting to KILL TPA, so that he could just do what he wants.

And if you are correct, since TPA doesn’t exist for him now, why isn’t he acting unilaterally now? Why is he saying that TPA MUST be passed so that he can finish the negotiations on TPP.

Your argument doesn’t hold water.

[Thank You Rush]

This is one of the reasons WHY this subject has become so distorted and driven people crazy trying to understand it. This is NOT the text of the bill. When have you ever seen a bill that is all of ONE PAGE LONG? It is ONE AMENDMENT to H. R. 1314

[TNMOUTH]

Fueled by a Leftist plant (who admitted it) and perpetuated by people from other campaigns who have the simple agenda of defeating Cruz.

[Lucky9teen]

Why are you asking me such ridiculous questions.

I’m not telling anyone what they can or can’t discuss here. I personally don’t want to discuss Obamatrade, because I don’t know much about it, and therefore haven’t formed an opinion on it, until I get further details.

That said, if you’d like to discuss the TPA, which is separate from Obamatrade, we can do that. Otherwise, piss off.

[Lucky9teen]

I apologize. I grabbed the wrong link. Here is the full text of the 146 page TPA bill.

[Thank You Rush]

Thanks.....