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Plenty of blame to go around, but the teacher's union bare the biggest brunt.

Also, abolishing the Department of Education and returning control to the states, (as originally intended), would greatly improve quality of education.

And of course involved parents would be nice.

Fantasyland report cards will continue until major changes occur.

1 posted on 05/17/2015 1:58:28 PM PDT by PROCON
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ARTH ping.


2 posted on 05/17/2015 1:58:48 PM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

3 posted on 05/17/2015 2:03:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Math be rassist. Grades be rassist too.


4 posted on 05/17/2015 2:04:15 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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Grades? Seriously?? We all know one thing about standards and "discriminating" between the performance of various individuals:


5 posted on 05/17/2015 2:07:44 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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6 posted on 05/17/2015 2:10:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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People talk about Separation of Church and State. Although it is a false concept (i.e. it's not in the Constitution), it's in peoples' heads that the government should not get involved in church business.

I'd like to see Separation of School and State. It should be a flat rule: tax money cannot be used to education children.

Families should take it as a personal responsibility to make sure their children are educated. Do it yourself. Pay someone to do it. Join a Home Schooling Association -- whatever.

But the government-run schools, and the Teachers Unions, should be basically illegal. Separation of School and State.

7 posted on 05/17/2015 2:10:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("It's not easy being drunk all the time; everyone would do it, if it were easy.")
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My sister experiences this teaching middle school math at a special residential school for black kids in Baltimore. She is an amazing teacher and gets results. She’s not afraid to give failing grades when the kids are skating by with excellent grades in English, social studies, and science even though their proficiency in those classes is abysmal.mill have to send her this book as a gift. Thanks for posting.

Rossiterm is a pedigreed liberal, but he’s done some good things such as publishing an an oped in the WSJ expressing doubt about man made global warming and how that keeps poor Africans poor. He was fired from the progressive Institute for Policy Studies think tank after his essay was printed.

I went to grade school a few years with Rossiter and we were friends for a while in Ithaca. His dad committed suicide at their home in 1970 and Caleb found him.


8 posted on 05/17/2015 2:13:37 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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From the comments section....

We had one man who took on the educational establishment when he self-published a traditionally-based algebra textbook in 1981. He had seen a similar situation of woefully low performance with his community college students in 1970 as a new algebra teacher after retiring from the military. His foray into the private halls of academic "authors" caused hateful attacks on his efforts to teach math to the child who had come from weak parenting and weak teaching. As a decorated bomber pilot, the warrior fought back hard. Their effort to destroy him exists even today, 19 years after his death. His name was John Saxon and he managed to build a K-12 math textbook publishing business worth an estimated $100 million. He kept declaring that "Results matter!" His opponents declared in return, "Equity matters!" Evidently, their goal of equity is being fulfilled today with fake grades being given to assure equity for all.

SAXON math ROCKS.

All three of mine used it, all got into their respective private universities in the honors programs, and all three were eligible to take Calculus right from the start, with no remedial math required.

9 posted on 05/17/2015 2:14:44 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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People like to talk about graduation rates.

What’s really important is the LITERACY rates, and THOSE are abysmal.


10 posted on 05/17/2015 2:15:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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There are many kids who should go straight from 8th, maybe 6th, grade to vocational training.

They just clutter classrooms and distract serious students.

11 posted on 05/17/2015 2:17:37 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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Also, abolishing the Department of Education and returning control to the states, (as originally intended), would greatly improve quality of education.

I will never understand many freepers axiomatic belief that state control will automatically produce better results.

It certainly has that potential, and I support a return to federalism for other reasons, but states can screw up as bad or worse than the feds.

IOW, if full control were returned to states, some (most?) would improve, but it is almost certain some would get worse.

With 50 states you'd get a wide range.

14 posted on 05/17/2015 2:24:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I graduated HS in the early 80s. I was horrible at algebra. My brain simply does not ‘get’ algebra. I grasp the concepts of geometry with no difficulty at all but Algebra baffles me. In 10th grafe I got a 37 on the final. In 1th grade retaking the course I got a 40 on the final. My teacher stood there in a flowing robe and said “You shall not PASS!”

In 12th I aced what the school called Business math.

Was it really that long ago that schools held people to a standard? I guess it was.


15 posted on 05/17/2015 2:26:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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Another form of affirmative action. Better to face reality and fail the failures.


21 posted on 05/17/2015 2:34:03 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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Been going on for decades. Long ago, my first year in public school teaching, I was told by an older teacher in an elementary school that each teacher could only hold back 2-3 students max. each year. It threw off the class counts for the next year as they were near maximum, and the school district would have to hire ($$) a new teacher should a class size go over the count. An F/D in one subject meant the student had to attend remedial summer school, again governed by open slots, in order to be passed on to the next grade in the fall. The teacher told me you had to determine who benefited most from a repeat of the entire year or summer school in one or two subject areas. Some kids still wouldn’t get it if they repeated the same year for the rest of their lives. Those kids were passed on. Throw special ed (protected by law) and disruptive students (and their equally badass parents) into the mix, and the concept of passing a student to avoid conflict is common practice. Don’t forget the school administrators that won’t stand with the teacher when the parent’s complain.


24 posted on 05/17/2015 2:41:26 PM PDT by Shugee
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I hate to say it, but the Soviets have won.


25 posted on 05/17/2015 2:41:56 PM PDT by Melinator (my 2 cents)
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Placate the ignorant until thier child becomes as ignorant as they are and now we have new adults that are as stupid as thier parents and the parents blame white priviledge, white schools, whites in general for thier irresponsibilities, Im sick of it all, they have trained a crowd of guilty whites to go along with thier charade
26 posted on 05/17/2015 2:44:36 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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No-—Local control only. States are too big and too much of a bureaucracy that eats up millions. All local choices, local boards, local decisions of curricula, etc which should ONLY be Classical in the sense of the McGuffey Readers so the tools to be critical thinkers are given to all children.

The most brilliant “minds” in our history did NOT spend that much time in “group think” conditioning factories——they were Readers and spent no more than 4 or 5 years in institutions-—and they weren’t “social” experiments-—but taught hard facts and complex thinking skills (mathematics)-—like Ben Franklin, Washington, Adams, etc.——early childhood should be in the Natural Family until after age 7 AT LEAST—— like Pastor Bonhoeffer’s mother stated (personal tutors ONLY-—and no artificial institutions (Real Life interactions, mastering skills (true self-esteem) and emulation of mature, moral people, who love the child (so children are humanized and practice and observe Virtue).

Socrates-—the only purpose of education is to teach Virtue. (Without Virtue, there is no Freedom).


27 posted on 05/17/2015 2:44:42 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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High school, even middle school, is way too late to be worrying about this. You’re never going to learn algebra if you can’t do basic arithmetic and you’re never going to read Shakespeare or even a newspaper if you can’t get through Dick, Jane and Sally.

There are very few jobs that don’t require at least minimal skills like these.


29 posted on 05/17/2015 2:45:46 PM PDT by jocon307
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teacher's union bare the biggest brunt.

Bear?

30 posted on 05/17/2015 2:52:21 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Honest reporting from the Washington Post? That’s weird... This is NOT a PC subject...


31 posted on 05/17/2015 2:52:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (More blacks are aborted every week than have been lynched in the entire history of the country-Rush)
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