Posted on 05/15/2015 7:48:39 AM PDT by C19fan
Three women who believe the key to a successful marriage is always being subservient to their husbands' needs are dolling out relationship advice as the stars of a new television special exploring the world of submissive wives. The hour-long TLC special Submissive Wives Guide to Marriage, which airs on Sunday, chronicles the lives of three couples - two who are already in successful submissive marriages and one hoping adapting to the lifestyle will save their shaky relationship as they sleep in separate rooms. These woman step aside and allow their husbands to be the leaders of their households because they believe it proves their trust in them - and in God. 'Submission is one of the greatest gifts God has given to a woman,' Tara Furman explains in a preview clip from the episode. 'I have a joyful home because I am a submissive wife.'
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As a female colleague once said during the break-room discussion of how most murders of men by wives occur in the kitchen:
And not one of them was washing dishes at the time.
Biblical. And I bet that the show is a hit piece smear job...
Yup. I’m fleet maintenance and security. She is health and human services.
The model is very simple: God has ordained the man to be the “head” of the family. But what does this mean? The example is Christ himself, who gave his own life for his bride - the church. Likewise, men are to love & cherish their wives as they care for their own body (and the Bible rhetorically asks: “and who doesn’t take care of their own body?”), and if necessary the man is lay down his life. In essence, it is an attitude of giving up self-centered desires and serving the cause of his family - his wife especially.
Note that the wife is NOT called to lay down her life for her family - why? Because as the “weaker vessel” it is simply understood that it is always the man’s role to to give his life for those weaker - women and children.
So what does being a “submissive wife” actually mean then? Merely this, that she recognize her husbands leadership role and respect him as such. Sadly, here is where the model falls apart - why? Simply because “submission” is misunderstood; many think it only goes one way - wife towards husband.
But if you look again at the man’s role, it is ALSO one of submission; he is to submit his will, his energy, his time, his devotion - his strength to his wife and his family. Essentially, marriage is to be a relationship of MUTUAL submission.
But, because of our sinful & selfish natures we often look - not to the needs of our mate - but to mainly fulfilling our own desires first.
Ok some how down the road this is going to tie into Hillary’s speeches?.
I though John Candy died!
Three women who believe the key to a successful marriage is always being subservient to their husbands’ needs are dolling out relationship advice as the stars of a new television special exploring the world of submissive wives.
In my experience, the only woman many men will submit to is their mother. It's when a man tries to make his wife also submit to his mother that it all goes to hell in a handbasket.
Men should lead their families, following Christ’s example. Sometimes that means taking a back seat to others’ needs, but often it means making decisions that please few or no one.
“Serve” is also a misdefined word these days. One can serve by leading, but only by leading in the right directions.
Agreed. Probably more NY/CA media snarking at the laughable southern white Christians.
So very true! In marriage, the man has already submitted himself to the leadership of God. Otherwise, he would just take what he wanted and move on when he's done.
Exactly.
And yet the church has managed to take the simple concepts of “self-sacrificing, loving leadership” & “submission” - and bollix them up, rendering them virtually unrecognizable from their original intent.
Sigh...hence our absolute need for saving grace...
Very true. Ephesians 5 was our second reading when my wife and I got married. Unfortunately, the modern notion of submission implies that one spouse tramples over the other.
One of our pre-marriage counselors defined submission as “sub”-”mission”, which he described as “under the mission of”. In essence, marriage has a mission — a goal — and for Catholics its to help your spouse and family get to heaven. Submission in this case is binding on both spouses to be under that mission.
It’s tough sometimes to do that with worldly distractions and our human imperfections, but perseverance in this mission has eternal rewards.
Agreed
Excellent explanation.
is that John Candy?
What’s the general rule of thumb on this?
Who has the better deal? Is it the man who is called to unselfishly give up his life for the good of his wife? Or does the wife have it easier - as she is merely called to acknowledge and respect her husbands role as the “head” of the family.
Does submit mean that the wife has no opinion or responsibility? Of course not. But it is the husband who is ultimately responsible for the welfare of his family. And a wise husband will ENLIST the help of his wife - to know where he lacks - and where she excels.
Someone once made the point that if Christ - like a cop - were called to come deal with a “domestic disturbance”, when the door was opened - regardless of the circumstances - the first words out of his mouth are “Where is the man? He and I need to have a TALK...”.
If there is a problem in the family, it is the MAN whom God will hold responsible - not the women. But like Adam we men have the tendency to blame our wives for the failings of our household.
In our secular society I have only seen actual Godly leadership in the military. A good leader is defined as those who best take care of their men - while accomplishing the mission.
In the military, the officers are to eat AFTER all the troops have been fed, they sleep AFTER all the troops have been billeted.
As husbands we are called first and foremost to care for our wives. Why? because they are incapable? NO, because it is our JOB.
Sadly, my own efforts are often in much need of improvement...
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