Posted on 04/17/2015 9:27:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Apple Watch. Seems like Apple has a hit on its corporate hands. Or a preorder hit. The company sold a million Apple Watches in the first 24 hoursjust in the U.S.according to one piece of analysis. That would make it the most successful new product category launch in Apple's historyso what do you do if you've been talking smack about it for months?
If you're Roger Kay, you stuff a straw man full of nonsensical numbers that will allow you to declare the device a failure no matter what. It's a neat trick so long as no one applies a gram of logic to what you're saying. Unfortunately for Mr. Kay's latest column at ForbesApple Watch WagerI have plenty of logic lying around.
Mr. Kay's story starts off on Friday, when he reported that an informal poll of Silicon Valley tech execs found none of them intended to buy an Apple Watch. That led him to, "suspect that the watch will underperform from a sales perspective."
I suspect he is wrong.
Mr. Kay added:
The top press all got free demo watches, and theyre mostly positive about it, saying they have 'discovered' what makes the watch so special. But methinks the lady doth protest too much. If they had to pay for it, they would not likely have run out and bought one. And methinks the lady doth project too much.
The quote above was originally published on April 10th, the same day Apple Watch preorders went on sale and customers could make appointments to see them in Apple Stores. Here we are on Monday, April 13th, and Apple Watch is, as noted above, a smash hit. The debut device reached at least a million sales around the world in the first day. As HuffPo noted, it took 74 days for the iPhone to reach that number, and it took 28 days for iPad to do the same.
That puts quite the damper on the doom and gloom crowd's conviction that Apple Watch would finally be Apple's megaflop, its long overdue comeuppance after so many years of success.
Mr. Kay was challenged on his predictions of failure by readers who asked him to put his own predictions on the line, which he did on Monday. It's how he did so that has me tilting my knapsack off. From Mr. Kay's piece:
Rather than throw my hocus pocus on top of everybody elses (after all, who actually knows something as intangible as likely demand for a product in a new(ish) category?), I took a look at the ranges that some other people have laid out and used them to set a 'stretch' goal for Apple: 50 million units in the first year. Thats pretty much the high end of todays forecasts with a few million more units added on.
Here are the numbers he used:
In a Fortune survey done on March 2, 2015, financial analysts offered a range of predictions from
8 million to 41 million for the Apple Watchs first-year sales
How to Shape Your Apple Watch Predictions to Suit Your Goals
Let's start with the fact that 50 million units isn't "pretty much the high end of todays forecasts with a few million more units added on." It's a full 21.95 percent above the highest of the high end. It's also more than double the average of the analysts estimates he cited122.5 percent of the average, for those keeping score at home.
And if Apple does thissells more than 20 percent above the most enthusiastic predictions, and more than twice the consensusthen, and only then, will Mr. Kay magnanimously admit that he was wrong. From Mr. Kay:
Heres what Im going to do if Apple does manage to sell 50 million watches by April 24, 2016, a year from the starting ship date: Ill get a T-shirt made that says, 'I ♥ Tim Cook' on the front and 'You were right. I was wrong' on the back. In large letters. Credit Ryan Wood, a personal trainer at my health club, for the actual wording. I will wear this shirt and have pictures taken, front and back, which I will post to Facebooks Instagram with proper notification to my various distribution lists and social media along with a reminder of what this is all about for those who dump their own memory cache periodically to make room for the next crazy thing.
How generous!
I wrote a piece looking at the mental gymnastics required to be a member of the Church Apple Doom, but this takes the cake. Mr. Kay is setting the bar for Apple Watch success in fantasy land and couching that as reasonable so that no matter how well it does, he will still be able to label it a failure.
The funny thing is that I also have a bet running on Apple Watch with my friend Rocco Pendola. About a year ago I bet him that Apple would sell 40 million Apple Watches in the first full year of availability. I'm going to lose that bet. I was thinking in iPhone terms, not a new product category, and I was thinking about it as a fan of watches. I made a terrible bet, and I'm OK with that.
If Apple sells 2 million units in the first year, it would be a huge success compared to any other piece of wearable computing on the planet. Those kinds of numbers would make the device a blowout hit by any yardstick other than "Apple." At 5-10 million units, Apple will have a runaway success by any sane standard. Apple Watch sales above that will simply be stunning.
But don't look to Roger Kay to acknowledge such success.
I don’t know why this author has to insult Catholics to make his point.
That's a bug or a feature, depending on your perspective.
If you are thinking of it as a standalone watch, then obviously, it's broken. Lousy battery life, bulky, needs an iPhone to work ...
On the other hand, if you are used to carrying around an iPhone but are annoyed when it rings at inopportune times, and you have to take it out and check it, then, suddenly, the iWatch is a win!
It does what that Swiss relic did, only more accurately and without needing to be "set" (a quaint term having to do with calibration of a timepiece). And it lets you monitor most of the functions of your phone merely by looking at its face. Of course, it does need to be charged daily. But so does your phone (and you), more than likely. So, you just plug it in, alongside your phone, and that's that.
Same here.. . . why do some Freepers feel compelled to insult Apple users to make their points. . . they do it on every Apple thread.
But I think it's just about become a cult. It probably did a long time ago, but I'm pretty easygoing and like to cut lots of slack. But now I think it's nearly -- nearly -- there.
Viking2002 has summoned Swordswallower. Why, I don’t know. It’s like saying “Candyman” three times.
My advice: LEAVE THIS THREAD NOW.
If you don’t, you’ll feel dirty tomorrow.
*********************************************************************************************************
“...LEAVE THIS THREAD...” Jeez, that’s your “advice” after making four posts in the thread? You apparently feel irresistibly compelled to come to Apple related threads and hurl your insults at Apple products and Apple product users. There’s a certain sickness involved with that behavior, IMHO.
GAY HOOK-UP APP PLANNED FOR THE APPLE WATCH WILL NOTIFY YOU WHEN THE RIGHT GUYS ARE NEARBY
That's some cult. Over 1.2 BILLION iOS devices have been purchased in the past eight years, 500,000,000 of them just in the last three years. Apple iPhones have 33% of the South Korean market, the home market of Samsung and LG. They have 28% of the Chinese smartphone market. How exactly is that a cult. It is just people, like you, who like their products and are willing to buy them.
It comes with the territory somewhat. Coke drinkers don't argue with Pepsi drinkers over which formula is better or whatever, but complex technology offers myriad avenues for argument.
The use of media adds another interesting dimension.
Just what is this bloody thing supposed to be good for?
++
The question is since you don’t own an Apple product or ever intend to, why do you care what it is good for?
++++
No, it’s a fair question.
I bought both the first and most recent versions of the iPad and an iPhone 5 and 6. I take them with me everywhere. I bought two versions of the iPod including the original. I love Apple gadgets and I’m a PC guy.
But I would like know: Just what is this bloody thing supposed to be good for?
I think the smart watch is a category that will eventually be ubiquitous. But that will probably be several years down the road.
I distinctly remember many, many articles about how the iPad would be a failure. Who wants a tablet instead of a laptop? You can’t really work on a tablet.
I'm not sure how the Cell Providers would handle this. I don't know if they could allow more than one device to use the same number without some changes to system. Also how much would people be willing to pay for all of this.
“I believe the (only) way the product will become a true success is if it becomes a fully-capable unit just like a iPhone. Fully capable as a stand-alone phone.”
When the iPhone was announced, the line was
“I believe the (only) way the product will become a true success is if it becomes a fully-capable unit just like a Mac. Fully capable as a stand-alone computer.”
Is there any idea if they are working on inductive charging, like a mat you could toss all these things on when you crash, and they charge without having to plug them all in separately?
Depending on how many times that happens, it could be a very expensive win, and it's not saving you anything if you end up having to get the phone out anyway.
That’s like starting with “I have a perfectly serviceable rotary dial landline phone; just what is this bloody ‘smartphone’ thing supposed to be good for?”
I'm traveling the next few days, gonna be scarce.
Expensive?its less than a dollar a day.
Thats like starting with I have a perfectly serviceable rotary dial landline phone; just what is this bloody smartphone thing supposed to be good for?
++++
Nope. I can easily answer that question. But I’m baffled with regard to a device with a 1 square screen that can tickle your wrist that requires an iPhone to work. Baffled is an understatement.
But, of course, I never did like wearing a watch.
Such is the sad, pathetic live of an anti-Apple troll. I am almost hoping that Apple does stumble at something, so that these people can have at least one shining moment of glory in their lives and maybe have the opportunity to gloat a little.
It’s for the fact that phones are getting big to the point that they’re notably inconvenient to dig out of pocket, purse or briefcase just to check the latest notification, time, or other trivial glance.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.