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A Linux user tries out Windows 10
Network World ^ | 1 April 2015 | Bryan Lunduke

Posted on 04/02/2015 4:34:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 04/02/2015 4:34:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

2 posted on 04/02/2015 4:34:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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My opinion, and approach, to computers is simple .... it's like asking for a date.

Hi
I'm knarf
D'ya like me ?
No ?
buh bye

If it ain't user friendly, or continually demands I walk on eggs so I don't upset her pretty little head ... I don't want it.

3 posted on 04/02/2015 4:42:23 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ShadowAce

I tried Linux a couple of times, not for me. I’m too braindead and lazy to even learn the vocabulary. Word, Excel, PPT, Outlook and Firefox take care of 99% of my computing needs on an XP system.


4 posted on 04/02/2015 5:04:13 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: WinMod70; knarf

As knarf said above (basically)—you should use what works for you.


5 posted on 04/02/2015 5:22:17 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I’ve got Win 10 preview in VirtualBox on my MacBoo Pro. I haven’t played around with it much yet, but annoyance #1 (same as Windows 8) is that you can’t even create a single user account without creating or using a Windows ID.

I mean, I know Apple pushes you to get/use an Apple ID, but at least it’s optional and they give a clear means of bypassing it (as I have on a Mac Mini I use as a home theater hub). But it appears that Microsoft makes it mandatory, or at least doesn’t give you a clear option on how to proceed without it.


6 posted on 04/02/2015 5:30:16 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: WinMod70
Word, Excel, PPT, Outlook and Firefox take care of 99% of my computing needs on an XP system.

Holds true for most computer users.

7 posted on 04/02/2015 5:30:25 AM PDT by McGruff (Boy that Ted Cruz sure is catching alot of flak.)
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Windows 10 isn't alone in having issues with HiDPI screens.

MacOS X, last time I used it, had similar problems with many applications. Admittedly, this was several years ago, so that may have changed. I tend to not use Apple products. I respect myself too much for that.

Not sure what he's talking about, other than making a gratuitous swipe at a rival that is typical of an O/S fanboy. I'm typing this on a new iMac with a 5K retina display and it's gorgeous and perfect. Every app works great on the 5K screen.

8 posted on 04/02/2015 5:37:35 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: kevkrom

Sure you can. But why would you not use a Microsoft ID. That’s where a lot of the great features come in.


9 posted on 04/02/2015 5:50:52 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

Because when I set a computer up, I typically start by making an “admin” account with none of those types of IDs. Then I make individual user accounts with limited privileges so I’m never actually logged in as “admin” for routine use. (And even then, I can do most admin tasks with a regular account by providing the admin credentials.)

Frankly, I recommend this for anyone on any OS - always run your everyday account with the minimum privileges you need and use some sort of admin account to deal with privilege escalation when needed.


10 posted on 04/02/2015 6:09:31 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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At this point in the development process, the UI “look and feel” is probably the least polished part of the package, so the author’s conclusions are not unexpected.


11 posted on 04/02/2015 6:18:37 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Cortana was just not fun to use. And I'm not bashing it for lack of functionality (this is still a "Technical Preview" of Windows 10, after all) or bugginess (though it was plenty buggy). My issue with this feature is that using it to do just about anything was significantly slower than using a mouse, keyboard, or touchscreen to accomplish the same tasks.

I asked it to find a web page by name in another drive. I might as well have asked it to find the square root of Pi! I ran searching and then disappeared.

Having a good-looking software store is pretty critical. And that's something still lacking in non-Android Linux-based systems right now. Even Ubuntu could use some serious improvements in its software store experience.

Wrong. Having a store is not even necessary for Windows, as everything you need is available, mostly for free, by just searching for it and using reputable sources. Easier and much more variety than Linux. I am still waiting for a real equivalent to AutoHotKey for Xubuntu that i use on a laptop.

In Windows 10, the Start Menu is back… kind of. There's no more full screen of animated tiles (Windows users dodged a bullet, there). But what Windows 10 has now isn't all that much better. Other than the fact that it's not, technically, full screen.

You can make it full screen by hitting the r. top arrow. But it is still too set up like for a kindergarten. Classic Shell is still an improvement even without the (don't call it) Metro UI.

Below is the difference btwn the default WTP start menu and classic shell. Which would you prefer? (You can nuke items in either one.)

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What Windows needs to do is to make the OS more customizable like Firefox. Linux is actually more so as regards window and desktop personalization, as W/8/10 offers less than W/9x/XP.

The Right Click Context Menu Extender should be standard. Also a clock like T-Clock , which shows seconds (which MS has yet to think was a worthy option after 15 years) and other options.

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Here is a neat tweak to add things to the Windows key and X shortcut (which itself is a plus for Win/8/10):

http://www.askvg.com/exclusive-customize-new-quick-access-menu-win-x-menu-in-windows-8-add-remove-rename-or-move-shortcuts-and-much-more /

12 posted on 04/02/2015 6:28:38 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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http://m.hanselman.com/blog/HowToSignIntoWindows8Or81WithoutAMicrosoftAccountMakeALocalUser.aspx


13 posted on 04/02/2015 6:49:58 AM PDT by NaturalScience
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To: knarf
If it ain't user friendly, or continually demands I walk on eggs so I don't upset her pretty little head ... I don't want it.

Hahaha! Reminds of a poster I saw once:


14 posted on 04/02/2015 7:03:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I've been to the 15th broken moon of the Medusa Cascade & the diamond coral reefs of Kataa Flo Ko.)
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To: McGruff

Yup, that’s me.


15 posted on 04/02/2015 7:43:59 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: ShadowAce

Does this mean that Windows 10 gets rid of that stupid “ribbon” menu and gos back to the simple, user-friendly menu?


16 posted on 04/02/2015 7:48:28 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: knarf

It’s interesting how “user-friendly” works and it applies to just about anything that is produced be it operating systems or cars. Users basically see user friendliness in a product as “smart” whereas products that are unnecessarily difficult to use are “dumb.”

Now the engineers creating any of these products may be the smartest guys in the world. What user-friendly products usually means is the COMPANY is smart. Smart enough to know that engineering smarts and acrobatics isn’t enough. They know that developing a concept or a product that does amazing things is only step one.

Smart companies focus their smart engineers on the second step also: making it simple and easy to use and maintain. It requires the engineer to put himself in the shoes of the average Joe and making it easy for him. That is one reason Hewlett-Packard became one of the most successful companies in the world. Their printers, among other things, are so simple and easy to use and maintain - that is a result of painstaking and deliberate efforts on HP’s part to make them as easy to use as possible.

There’s too many companies that are wrapped around how great they think they are and no enough who realize they are only as good as the customer thinks they are. And that comes from not only functionality and reliability, but the deliberate goal of making it easy of use. “The customer is always right” isn’t just a nice saying, it really is true.


17 posted on 04/02/2015 8:06:39 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: ShadowAce
"Could eat Chinese food every day of the week."

You could, but you wouldn't be around long.

18 posted on 04/02/2015 8:25:45 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: daniel1212

He said there were no categories in the Win 10 start menu or something.


19 posted on 04/02/2015 9:14:42 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: ShadowAce; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
Cross-ping to the Windows List... Tip-o'-the-Fedora to ShadowAce...


20 posted on 04/02/2015 9:18:04 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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