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Apple concept would require users to input health data to keep using their iPhone
AppleInsider (via Rush Limbaugh) ^ | Thursday, March 26, 2015, 06:49 am PT (09:49 am ET) | By Neil Hughes

Posted on 03/28/2015 6:47:58 AM PDT by 9thLife

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To: ctdonath2
Sometimes, the job is to come up with stuff they DON’T want ANYONE to use, so they patent it, don’t use it, and sue the he11 out of anyone who does.

They appear to be getting ready to use it. Whether it's a reminder system for the intractably stubborn or extortion just depends on who has control of the buttons.

81 posted on 03/28/2015 5:27:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Swordmaker; Interesting Times; GreyFriar

OK, so it is a user selectable option. Thanks for the correction.


82 posted on 03/28/2015 5:30:01 PM PDT by zot
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To: zot; Interesting Times

thanks, but I’m not really into cell phones, thus I’m still not getting Apple, or sprint, or Samsung or any of the other ones advertised constantly on tv and radio.


83 posted on 03/28/2015 5:33:49 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: 9thLife

They’d have to rename the company to “Obama Computer.”

Next up: Sasquatch appearing in compulsory videos telling you what you are ALLOWED to eat before you can begin using your device. You’ll have to scan the bar code on every apple, banana, and orange you eat then submit the core, rind, or peel for ex-post verification of consumption. Ain’t life in Obamaland grand?


84 posted on 03/28/2015 5:37:30 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yep..... that would be THE apple a day keeps the doctor away BS...... Wont be a party to such nonsensical nannies .....

Stay Safe!!


85 posted on 03/28/2015 6:41:05 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: tacticalogic

Appear? How? Apple has a great many patents they’ve done nothing with.


86 posted on 03/28/2015 7:12:34 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: 9thLife

Sort of like Ford’s car that reads the speed limit signs and holds you to them......why would I buy one?


87 posted on 03/28/2015 7:34:04 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Swordmaker

I heard Rush Limbaugh discuss this. I have to think that this is an optional feature for the Apple users who are health minded and want a mandatory daily reminder and run though of their health status. This is an attempt by Apple to make their devices helpful in the realm of health and taking care of oneself.

For those who have no interest in this they simply don’t set up this health check lockout option


88 posted on 03/28/2015 8:06:52 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 9thLife
Perhaps if it’s entirely user-configurable; i.e. a personally enabled nag, it might be seen as reasonable. If that’s the case, the article should have made it clear early on.

That would be outside the scope of the patent. I assume Apple wouldn't implement this as mandatory on every device it sells, in small part because it requires external hardware, but mostly because they don't have a history of going out of their way to alienate customers.

89 posted on 03/29/2015 12:21:13 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
Sort of like Ford’s car that reads the speed limit signs and holds you to them......why would I buy one?

As long as you have a choice, I don't suppose you would. Though a parent might like something like that as a first car for a teenager.

But that capability will lead to others. In fact it seems like a step to autonomously guided cars, using slightly modified infrastructure.

If the capability described in this piece is employed in smartphones, it's one more area over which someone or some entity can assert authority. In our current regime, the government has a vested interested in controlling people's health management as much as possible. It's driven by money. It doesn't care about limits of government or rights to self-government -- money-machines cannot care about such things. That makes any device which would serve it a potential threat to liberty, wouldn't it?

90 posted on 03/29/2015 6:04:38 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Gaffer
The context as I read the post is “forced” participation. In that vein, anything like this Apple might require is BS. I’d have none of it.

1) It's a patent. Apple patents lots of things that never make it into products.

2) Look at this in the light of recently-announced ResearchKit - if they were to implement this, it would be as an option for devices provided by researchers to collect data and locked down in such a way as to facilitate data collection.

91 posted on 03/29/2015 6:09:04 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: kevkrom

Yes, in some fashion I guess one could interpret that all this is just a user-aid to ‘help’ them do what they want but don’t have the willpower to do so without some device to remind them. Okay.

Reading the filing, it does say “option” and such but it is not done so with direct specificity the USER has complete control over its functionality.

I’ve had enough iPhones, iTunes, etc. to come to the conclusions that they can make it damned difficult for the average user to change preselected options to their will and to make sure other applications functions as the USER wants. It is frustrating sometimes.

Regardless, I realize it’s a what if protection for them, but it’s just another ‘feature’ in a long line of crap I really don’t look for in a useful product for myself.


92 posted on 03/29/2015 6:15:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ctdonath2

How many of these things STAY “optional”???? This things only lead to MANDATORY as the process goes. The imperial dictatorship in Sodom on the Potomac will take notice and it will be come a mandatory way to get and hold even more info on each of us. Eventually, the government will hold the card on everyone by MONEY. They will be giving out so much money to almost all the population. That leads to “IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY YOU WILL DO IT OUR WAY OR WE CUT OFF THE MONEY SUPPLY.” I have long felt this would happen. With government money going out to so many. Social Security, disability of different types, government retirements, military retirements, etc. They will hold those over our heads. If we don’t do as Uncle Dictator tells us, we will have it cut off. Nothing these days stay our choice for long. Not when the government figures out they can make hay on it some way. More control over us. More power over us. To MAKE us do what THEY want us to do.


93 posted on 03/29/2015 11:24:06 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: ctdonath2
Appear? How? Apple has a great many patents they’ve done nothing with.

They've described how it would be implemented and used.

How many patents does Apple have that they've never done anything with, and prevented anyone else from being able to do anything with?

94 posted on 03/29/2015 5:51:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Lots. Actually rather a depressingly large number, as many of them are pretty darned cool.


95 posted on 03/29/2015 5:59:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: RetiredArmy
How many of these things STAY “optional”????

With Apple? All of them.

96 posted on 03/29/2015 7:39:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: ctdonath2
Lots. Actually rather a depressingly large number, as many of them are pretty darned cool.

So this is not necessarily a good thing.

97 posted on 03/29/2015 7:52:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
So this is not necessarily a good thing.

No, it is not necessarily a good thing. But I can think of at least one time in which Apple acquired a patent for something for the purpose of keeping it off the market for the benefit of users. . . and if I recall correctly it was a means of breaking spam filters. I do not recall all of the details now, but Apple under Steve Jobs, bought a company that had developed something that was capable of easily compromising everyone's spam filters. . . and never utilized it. It is no longer useful because spam filter technology supposed the means used by that technology. But Apple kept it off the market until it had.

Shortly after that, Apple came out with their Heuristic Spam filter system, then the best there was.

98 posted on 03/30/2015 11:54:46 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
No, it is not necessarily a good thing. But I can think of at least one time in which Apple acquired a patent for something for the purpose of keeping it off the market for the benefit of users. . . and if I recall correctly it was a means of breaking spam filters.

Somehow I'm having a hard time imagining that anybody who'd use that would care about patents.

99 posted on 03/30/2015 12:04:44 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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