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American Doctors Are Killing Themselves and No One Is Talking About It
Daily Beast ^ | 03/23/2015 | Gabrielle Glaser

Posted on 03/23/2015 8:00:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s estimated that at least 400 U.S. doctors kill themselves every year. Many are struggling with depression, anxiety, or addiction.

Greg Miday was a promising young doctor with a prestigious oncology fellowship in St. Louis. He spoke conversational Spanish, volunteered with the homeless, and played the piano as if he’d been born to it. He had rugged good looks, with dark wavy hair and a tall, athletic build. Everybody—siblings, patients, friends, nurses, professors, fellow doctors, and above all, his physician-parents—adored him.

On the evening of June 21, 2012, Greg drew a bath, lit candles, and put his iPod on speaker. He drank a copious quantity of vodka, and placed family photos on the ceramic ledge of the tub. At some point, he scribbled out a note that read:

“Dear Some,

My Family, I love you. To others who have been good friends, I love you too. This is just the end of the line for my particular train. Earth wasn’t a particularly great place for me. We’ll see what else is out there. Will miss you all! Am sorry for what it’s worth. Greg Miday.”

Then he climbed into the warm water and with surgical skill, punctured the arteries carrying blood to his hands and feet.

His parents called the next morning, but got no answer. Frantic, they reached his landlady, who summoned the St. Louis police after she heard music playing from the apartment but could not get Miday to open the door.

St. Louis police found the body. He was 29 years old.

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To: NorthstarMom

We are truly blessed. Thank you


21 posted on 03/23/2015 9:51:46 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They will all have a foreign accent.

I haven't had an American born doctor in the past 12 years.

22 posted on 03/23/2015 10:29:05 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind

being a doctor sounds like a really shitty job. im surprised we havent had a doctor crisis sooner in this country


23 posted on 03/23/2015 10:53:05 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: SeekAndFind
...played the piano as if he’d been born to it. He had rugged good looks, with dark wavy hair and a tall, athletic build.---

---On the evening of June 21, 2012, Greg drew a bath, lit candles, and put his iPod on speaker

Greg seemed ok until he "drew a bath and lit candles"...That's just not something (real) men do.
24 posted on 03/23/2015 10:56:43 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: SeekAndFind

It must be tough to work your butt off for 20 years of education plus years of internship/residency, take the risk, effort, and expense of starting a practice as a physician only to find yourself under the total control of a healthcare system commonly known by a term which includes the surname of a completely unaccomplished. lazy, moron who lied repeatedly to the public as he was huckstering for the passage of the bill, which is then administered by his flunky, unaccountable government bureaucrat hacks.


25 posted on 03/24/2015 4:17:50 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is getting that way now. We are seeing more and more barely can speak English foreign doctors.

Had the bad luck of the draw on 1 hospital visit of a M.E. Male. And he did not check his religious taboos about women at the hospital door.

We are finding it harder to find docs especially specialist that are willing to take Medicare and Tricare Life (Ret. Military over 65) since both are total government controlled, and 0 gutted Medicare, and DOD did Tricare Life.

This will be the 17th DOC PAY FIX that congress will have to make. 0’care is supposed to drop reimbursement 10% each year for the next 3 yrs. That does not pay their over head. You have low and slow reimbursement to contend with. While you have to pay staff, utilities, insurance for staff, building and durable medical machines and the routine 1 use items that are a weekly or monthly expense.


26 posted on 03/24/2015 5:52:01 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Usagi_yo

The suicide rate for scum sucking bottom feeders is not well documented, but it is supposed their innate sense of self-preservation and self-aggrandizement potential offsets any depressogenic episode leading to self-removal from the gene pool.

We can dream though, can’t we?


27 posted on 03/24/2015 6:57:30 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mom MD; golux
"To some of us, even the dreaded woman, the study of the human body only adds to our awe of the Creator who so wonderfully made us. I certainly have not lost decency nor has my husband also a doc. It all depends on your point of view and your anchor."

My former brother-in-law, a GP, is one of the most solid and devoted Christians you would ever want to meet. Nothing in his education or his work managed to detract from his belief in divine Creation; rather, the opposite.

He was always ready and happy to pray with his patients, if they wanted.

28 posted on 03/24/2015 7:26:08 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon; Mom MD

I certainly agree with both of you. When I say “man” I mean “people,” and was merely acknowledging the inherent sexism and offensive nature of the term, as traditionally used, concurrently apologetically inoculating myself if you will against accusations of misogyny by the weaker sex. ;-) (yes I just winked at you too! Ooh I’m BAD! LOL)


29 posted on 03/24/2015 8:45:33 AM PDT by golux
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s estimated that at least 400 U.S. doctors kill themselves every year.

So? They kill about 225,000 of US a year!

From World Health Education Initiative

Even more significantly, the medical system has played a large role in undermining the health of Americans. According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical treatments: • 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery • 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals • 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals • 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals • 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs

30 posted on 03/24/2015 12:46:21 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Suicide rate for lawyers is also pretty high.

____________

not high enough.


31 posted on 03/24/2015 12:53:02 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: SeekAndFind

400 out of how many? Seems like a fairly insignificant percentage. Out of any group of folks some of them are going to want to snuff it.


32 posted on 03/24/2015 12:54:41 PM PDT by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: discostu

RE: 400 out of how many?

SEE HERE:

www.statista.com/topics/1244/physicians/

In 2009, there were over 970,000 doctors of medicine all over the United States. This figure included more than 120,000 inactive and some 57,000 unclassified physicians. Thus, the U.S. has a less marked physician density compared to some other countries.

Compare that to the suicide rate in the USA.

Suicide is the 12th leading cause of death in the United States. According to the Centers for Disease Control, in the United States as of 2010, more people died of suicide than in car accidents. In 2010, the total number of suicide deaths in the United States was 38,364 ( The USA has a population of north of 300 million ).

So, the suicide rate among Physicians relative to their number in this country is MUCH HIGHER (nearly 4 times ) the national rate.


33 posted on 03/24/2015 1:11:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

4 times almost nothing is still almost nothing. 400 out of nearly a million is, to borrow an accounting term, non-material.


34 posted on 03/24/2015 1:18:35 PM PDT by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: discostu

RE: 400 out of nearly a million is, to borrow an accounting term, non-material.

I guess, with this 3000 dead in 9/11 is to borrow an accounting term, non-material compared to 300 million Americans.


35 posted on 03/24/2015 1:28:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That was an act of war. The war part makes it material. Acts of suicide are a different scale. An insignificant percentage of people dying from their own actions does not make a crisis.


36 posted on 03/24/2015 1:45:40 PM PDT by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: discostu

I did not seem to see the word — CRISIS in the article.

Acts of suicide are of course different from acts of terrorism. However, the outcome is the same — PEOPLE ARE DEAD BY KILLING. And note: According to the article, this is a YEARLY occurrence.

First sentence reads:

“It’s estimated that at least 400 U.S. doctors kill themselves every year.” ( you are free to question that stat, I don’t have the time to check its validity ).

I don’t seem to hear people saying that an insignificant percentage of people dying from a rare occurrence of terrorism in this country does not make a crisis.


37 posted on 03/24/2015 1:57:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well if it’s not a crisis then why is it bad nobody is talking about it? Really if you translate the data into the headline what it would say is “an insignificant percentage of a small demographic are committing suicide, and the reaction is proportional”. There’s almost certainly more doctors dying in car accidents and nobody is talking about that either.

Again, terrorism is war. Different situation, and going to that strawman repeatedly shows you actually understand this is a silly “story”.


38 posted on 03/24/2015 2:03:15 PM PDT by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: discostu

RE: Again, terrorism is war.

You don’t have to tell me that. People react to terrorism emotionally in a different way than other kinds of death.

Why do people for instance react to the Boston marathon bombing where less than 10 people died?

But in terms of statistical data relative to the population base, I would say this is more significant in percentage terms than those who died in 9/11.

As for this: “There’s almost certainly more doctors dying in car accidents and nobody is talking about that either.”

I’m not sure about this “more doctors” thing. Did we have a study on that showing that this is so?

As for this being a “silly” story, not sure if I can call it that. The article is simply telling us that more people in that profession are killing themselves maybe compared people in other professions. This is a very interesting factoid. It would be interesting to know WHY this is so IMHO.


39 posted on 03/24/2015 2:19:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well terrorism is an attack on our way of life. It’s a worthy thing to react to. Also there’s a clearly defined bad guy in that.

Just the way the numbers work. Auto accidents are generally a top 5 cause of death, so most others are going to rank lower.

It’s the “and no one is talking about it” that makes it silly. That phrase is generally used to try to declare something a problem that we’re not paying enough attention to. But I don’t think the math supports that language. It’s a high stress profession, with a high level of opportunity for other life problems (like addiction). I would expect the suicide rate to be higher than the general population.


40 posted on 03/24/2015 2:42:03 PM PDT by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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