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Jamestown settlers ate 14-year-old girl, researchers say
Pioneer Press/LA Times ^ | 3-18-15 | Matt Pearce

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:31:00 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

The early American settlers called it "the starving time," and accounts of the winter of 1609-1610 were so ghastly, and so morbid, that scholars weren't sure if the stories were true. George Percy, then president of the English settlement of Jamestown in Virginia, wrote that settlers ate horses, then cats and dogs, then boots and bits of leather, and, finally, one another. "One of our colony murdered his wife, ripped the child out of her womb and threw it into the river, and after chopped the mother in pieces and salted her for his food," wrote Percy, who then ordered the man executed. "Now whether she was better roasted, boyled or carbonado'd (barbecued), I know not, but of such a dish as powdered wife I never heard of," added the famed settler John Smith.

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TOPICS: History; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bbq; cannibalism; georgepercy; godsgravesglyphs; jamestown; johnsmith; revisionisthistory; smithsonian; thestarvingtime; virginia; waronscience
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To: agrarianlady
The colonists of Plymouth were a very different type of people from the Jamestown settlers.

Indeed. The Plymouth settlers wanted to get away from a culture they rejected; many of the Jamestown settlers were get-rich-quick adventurers. I can definitely see the latter resorting to all sorts of things the former wouldn't do when times got tough.

21 posted on 03/18/2015 6:50:20 AM PDT by Kaled
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To: Kaled

I never could figure out the starvation times of the early settlers.
Hunting is hard (especially with matchlocks), but clams are easily dug, and the waters were teeming with fish back then.


22 posted on 03/18/2015 6:58:06 AM PDT by Flintlock (The 'soapbox ' failed us; the 'ballot box' was stolen. We are left with the bullet box.)
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To: bigbob

Carbonado? Maybe that’s what they should have called the Chevy Blazer. At least the one my wife and I got stuck behind on NJ Route 17 N, blazing away on the side of the highway. We were returning home from our wedding in Ohio and spent the time we were stuck eating leftover cake and finishing off the last bottle of champagne.


23 posted on 03/18/2015 7:00:06 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Flintlock

At times the settlers were getting shot and killed by the local Indians whenever they left the fort.

Plus they had not yet invented AFDC or the Department of Health and Human Services.


24 posted on 03/18/2015 7:18:15 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Flintlock

I wouldn’t have a clue about clam digging because I have no experience with the ocean shores. I’m not sure how effective my freshwater fishing skills would be in the ocean.

In a midwestern environment I would be fine. I have considerable knowledge of native plants and animals. Freshwater clams just lay on the bottom. Crayfish can be found under rocks and in crevices. Freshwater fish are easy enough to catch with a hook and a line. I know which plants and mushrooms I can eat.


25 posted on 03/18/2015 7:18:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Deathtomarxists

I’m not so sure. They could not get out of their palisade because they were picked off by the Indians if they went on hunting or fishing expeditions. I don’t know if they resorted to cannibalism but if you read the accounts, they were under siege and being starved out.


26 posted on 03/18/2015 7:20:18 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: TurboZamboni
Someone made four small chops to Jane's forehead before an ax or cleaver broke open the back of her skull, the researchers said. There were also small knife cuts on her jaw and cheek…. Smithsonian anthropologist Owsley said.. "The recovered bone fragments have unusually patterned cuts and chops that reflect tentativeness, trial and complete lack of experience in butchering animal remains. Nevertheless, the clear intent was to dismember the body, removing the brain and flesh from the face for consumption.”

Oh, please. Any clawed animal could have made those marks. Why would a human go for the face and not the meaty part of the body first? An animal wouldn't have been able to remove the clothing, so would claw at the face.

Just another attempt to demonize the white European settlers.

27 posted on 03/18/2015 7:20:35 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: a fool in paradise
So she was a pregnant 14 year old and the baby was tossed in the river?

I guess he didn't like veal.

28 posted on 03/18/2015 7:21:22 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: Flintlock

“I never could figure out the starvation times of the early settlers.”

Same reason someone from the city could starve to death in an area full of wild game, fish, and vegetation.

Simple lack of knowledge.

If you don’t know how to hunt you wont get game.

If you don’t know how to fish you wont catch fish.

If you don’t know how to build a boat and make a net you wont net fish.

It was winter, even in the best time of spring finding enough vegetation to survive is almost impossible even for someone that knows what to look for. If you don’t know what to look for forget it, you can even poison yourself.

Don’t forget, Indians were also competing for the same food, areas could easily be hunted out.


29 posted on 03/18/2015 7:32:20 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Albion Wilde

Werent the peaceful native americans known for mutilating the bodies of the people they killed?
scalping, disembowelment, etc


30 posted on 03/18/2015 7:47:30 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: TurboZamboni

Interesting that what passes for “research” these days is aiming towards a complete denial of God & His Sovereignty. If these researchers and sociologists can distort and make Christians look sub-human in the process—even better!


31 posted on 03/18/2015 7:48:36 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: IMR 4350
Simple lack of knowledge.

Exactly. I wonder how many people from the southwest desert would pass these up if they were lost and starving in the north woods?



If I'm ever dropped into the southwest desert somewhere I want to be with someone who grew up there.
32 posted on 03/18/2015 7:48:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Buttons12
Or even rob a bird’s nest.

Seasonal, and a short season at that.

33 posted on 03/18/2015 7:49:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: cripplecreek

What IS that?


34 posted on 03/18/2015 7:51:35 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs
Beefsteak Mushroom. They make some people sick which is another problem but if you didn't know what a morel was, you probably wouldn't eat those either.


35 posted on 03/18/2015 7:56:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Buttons12

At the point of the highest starvation conditions they were also under siege by Powhatan indians who outnumbered their dwindling, starved people. No one could guard someone while they fished. Hunting put people out into the wood where awaited savages. The worst was in winter... adding to the stress and death. And they had no clean water, from lack of understanding and access to the free flowing river water— same reasons— no guards available.


36 posted on 03/18/2015 8:08:41 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Flintlock

Powhatan siege of their enclosure. They couldn’t go outside, for lack of people to guard the gatherers. so they starved inside.


37 posted on 03/18/2015 8:11:14 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: cripplecreek

I bet most people today couldn’t even feed themselves if all they had was a modern .22 pistol with only iron sights, much less feed a group of people.

I forage for wild plants for salads, no shrooms, but it’s not enough to live on.

Too many people have this wild belief they could take off and survive in the woods hunting, fishing, and gathering plants.


38 posted on 03/18/2015 8:13:05 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: BenLurkin

Coons’ wife in next frame put her hand on Biden— to say “that’s enough a@@hole!”. Uncle Pervie Plugs the plagiarist.


39 posted on 03/18/2015 8:13:10 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TurboZamboni

Forget everything you learned in your history books. America was founded by cannibals. And Muslims.


40 posted on 03/18/2015 8:20:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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