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How having more stuff is eating up all the gains from being more efficient (Energy useage)
Mother Nature Network ^ | 2-13-2015 | Lloyd Alter

Posted on 02/22/2015 11:53:50 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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1 posted on 02/22/2015 11:53:50 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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2 posted on 02/22/2015 11:54:26 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Another lecture by a leftist telling us why we all suck. And I bet this schmuck uses more energy than I do, by the way.


3 posted on 02/22/2015 11:58:54 AM PST by samtheman
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William Stanley Jevons:

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Jevons.html


4 posted on 02/22/2015 11:59:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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5 posted on 02/22/2015 11:59:17 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: samtheman

Yep. I haven’t posted any preaching from ‘Mother Nature Network’ in a while. ;)


6 posted on 02/22/2015 12:00:53 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It’s just endless from those people. They don’t have lives. All they know how to do is hate.


7 posted on 02/22/2015 12:03:47 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“LEDs are consuming milliamps”

That’s some o’ that there science what the climate denier types don’t believe in.


8 posted on 02/22/2015 12:11:40 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I remember a study / forecast that an economics professor did in reference to the Carter Years before Obama was elected predicting the same thing.

He has some name that he was using that Econ Professors apply to the shopping experience when things are on sale.

If you plan on spending money on cloths, you go to the mall and you buy shirts that are normally 10 dollars for 1 dollar, you have 10 dollars to spend, so you buy 10 shirts.

You didn’t save 9*10 dollars, in your mind you might think that, in fact you didn’t save anything because all 10 dollars were spent.


9 posted on 02/22/2015 12:19:33 PM PST by dila813
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
As the data show, we manage to just keep using more energy to power more stuff in ways we just can’t even imagine.

It's called PROGRESS. Something MARXISTS/COMMUNISTS/LIBERALS can't embrace.

10 posted on 02/22/2015 12:21:44 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: samtheman
I wonder what kind of home Al Gore lives in. Or Hillary or Elizabeth Warren or any of the other liberal darlings who are forever telling the rest of us how we should cut back on our consumption.

I'm willing to bet that all of these liberals have large homes with lots of energy-consuming appliances.

11 posted on 02/22/2015 12:29:27 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have no problem with advocating using less energy ... free speech after all .... and it’s not such a bad idea to be less dependent energy wise.

However, I do have a problem with forcing less energy use ... which this article is not advocating by the way


12 posted on 02/22/2015 12:35:53 PM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m all for the minimalist lifestyle. In fact, I read this article in the print edition, sent my letter to the editor, he transcribed it for me, et voilá, here it is on your screen. I didn’t consume a single electron or photon.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 12:39:39 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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They’re all control freaks.They want to mandate the size of your house,your car,what you eat,how many children you are allowed.


14 posted on 02/22/2015 12:39:51 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The story behind the following link best describes today's situation in regards to appliances and energy usage.

The Marching Morons
http://www.gutenberg.ca/ebooks/kornbluthcm-marchingmorons/kornbluthcm-marchingmorons-00-h.html

In the near future, low-techs will do best.


15 posted on 02/22/2015 12:43:57 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: samtheman
Sorry, put the conserve in conservatism.

I lived with a save-the-planet guy that would go put in CFLs and buy an $8000 pellet stove and such... but when it came down to everyday life, he drove an SUV, would have every lightbulb and television going at once, routinely fall asleep on Friday/Saturday nights with the entire farmhouse light up like Ft. Knox, all the TVs going, with the Macintosh MC-240 tube amp cranking through a pair of Bozaks.

The best was in the summertime... he would open up the kitfhen and living room doors to the sunporch with Jalosie windows and crank the AC to cool the sun porch.

Whenever he went away for the weekend or on vacation, I was knocking $10/day off the power bill in the summertime, just by doing conservative stuff like turning off lights and ventilating the whole house at night when the air was cool and then sealing up the house in the morning... and the 21" thick stone walls kept the house cool just about all day long with no AC.

16 posted on 02/22/2015 12:44:21 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I'm doing my part in energy conservation.

I have totally given up ironing.

I don't do laundry until it's up to the ceiling and I chock full my washing machine.

I cook by the pot and freeze...and voila...no cooking all winter long.

So what do I do with my savings?

What savings....They're always raising the rates and surcharges.

17 posted on 02/22/2015 12:47:53 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: familyop

Thank you for posting the link to Marching Morons. I’ve been searching for years.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 12:52:16 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
climate skeptics ... I fear they might be right

That's all I got from the article.

19 posted on 02/22/2015 12:53:53 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The pie chart showed that the total energy went from 10.01 quadrillion BTUs in 1993 to 10.18 quadrillion BTUs in 2009, or a 1.7% increase. But according to http://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-households-in-the-us/ the number of households over that same period went from 96 million to 117 million, or 22% more. Even accounting for smaller households that is still less energy per household and per person. It looks like we may have peaked.

The article had an interesting jump from per household energy use in its 1950-2010 graph, but total usage in 1993-2009. Always be wary when the scales change or the item being measured changes.

20 posted on 02/22/2015 1:01:00 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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