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Infinity Is a Beautiful Concept – And It’s Ruining Physics
Discover Magazine ^ | 2/20/15 | Max Tegmark

Posted on 02/20/2015 6:01:20 PM PST by LibWhacker

Infinity Is a Beautiful Concept – And It’s Ruining Physics

By Max Tegmark | February 20, 2015 9:00 am

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I was seduced by infinity at an early age. Georg Cantor’s diagonality proof that some infinities are bigger than others mesmerized me, and his infinite hierarchy of infinities blew my mind. The assumption that something truly infinite exists in nature underlies every physics course I’ve ever taught at MIT—and, indeed, all of modern physics. But it’s an untested assumption, which begs the question: Is it actually true?

A Crisis in Physics

There are in fact two separate assumptions: “infinitely big” and “infinitely small.” By infinitely big, I mean that space can have infinite volume, that time can continue forever, and that there can be infinitely many physical objects. By infinitely small, I mean the continuum—the idea that even a liter of space contains an infinite number of points, that space can be stretched out indefinitely without anything bad happening, and that there are quantities in nature that can vary continuously.

The two assumptions are closely related, because inflation, the most popular explanation of our Big Bang, can create an infinite volume by stretching continuous space indefinitely. The theory of inflation has been spectacularly successful and is a leading contender for a Nobel Prize. It explains how a subatomic speck of matter transformed into a massive Big Bang, creating a huge, flat, uniform universe, with tiny density fluctuations that eventually grew into today’s galaxies and cosmic large-scale structure—all in beautiful agreement with precision measurements from experiments such as the Planck and the BICEP2 experiments. But by predicting that space isn’t just big but truly infinite, inflation has also brought about the so-called measure problem, which I view as the greatest crisis facing modern physics.

Physics is all about predicting the future from the past, but inflation seems to sabotage this. When we try to predict the probability that something particular will happen, inflation always gives the same useless answer: infinity divided by infinity. The problem is that whatever experiment you make, inflation predicts there will be infinitely many copies of you, far away in our infinite space, obtaining each physically possible outcome; and despite years of teeth-grinding in the cosmology community, no consensus has emerged on how to extract sensible answers from these infinities. So, strictly speaking, we physicists can no longer predict anything at all!

This means that today’s best theories need a major shakeup by retiring an incorrect assumption. Which one? Here’s my prime suspect: ∞.

Infinity Doesn’t Exist

A rubber band can’t be stretched indefinitely, because although it seems smooth and continuous, that’s merely a convenient approximation. It’s really made of atoms, and if you stretch it too far, it snaps. If we similarly retire the idea that space itself is an infinitely stretchy continuum, then a big snap of sorts stops inflation from producing an infinitely big space and the measure problem goes away. Without the infinitely small, inflation can’t make the infinitely big, so you get rid of both infinities in one fell swoop—together with many other problems plaguing modern physics, such as infinitely dense black-hole singularities and infinities popping up when we try to quantize gravity.

In the past, many venerable mathematicians were skeptical of infinity and the continuum. The legendary Carl Friedrich Gauss denied that anything infinite really exists, saying “Infinity is merely a way of speaking” and “I protest against the use of infinite magnitude as something completed, which is never permissible in mathematics.” In the past century, however, infinity has become mathematically mainstream, and most physicists and mathematicians have become so enamored with infinity that they rarely question it. Why? Basically, because infinity is an extremely convenient approximation for which we haven’t discovered convenient alternatives.

Consider, for example, the air in front of you. Keeping track of the positions and speeds of octillions of atoms would be hopelessly complicated. But if you ignore the fact that air is made of atoms and instead approximate it as a continuum—a smooth substance that has a density, pressure, and velocity at each point—you’ll find that this idealized air obeys a beautifully simple equation explaining almost everything we care about: how to build airplanes, how we hear them with sound waves, how to make weather forecasts, and so forth. Yet despite all that convenience, air of course isn’t truly continuous. I think it’s the same way for space, time, and all the other building blocks of our physical world.

We Don’t Need the Infinite

Let’s face it: Despite their seductive allure, we have no direct observational evidence for either the infinitely big or the infinitely small. We speak of infinite volumes with infinitely many planets, but our observable universe contains only about 1089 objects (mostly photons). If space is a true continuum, then to describe even something as simple as the distance between two points requires an infinite amount of information, specified by a number with infinitely many decimal places. In practice, we physicists have never managed to measure anything to more than about seventeen decimal places. Yet real numbers, with their infinitely many decimals, have infested almost every nook and cranny of physics, from the strengths of electromagnetic fields to the wave functions of quantum mechanics. We describe even a single bit of quantum information (qubit) using two real numbers involving infinitely many decimals.

Not only do we lack evidence for the infinite but we don’t need the infinite to do physics. Our best computer simulations, accurately describing everything from the formation of galaxies to tomorrow’s weather to the masses of elementary particles, use only finite computer resources by treating everything as finite. So if we can do without infinity to figure out what happens next, surely nature can, too—in a way that’s more deep and elegant than the hacks we use for our computer simulations.

Our challenge as physicists is to discover this elegant way and the infinity-free equations describing it—the true laws of physics. To start this search in earnest, we need to question infinity. I’m betting that we also need to let go of it.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: existence; infinity; mathematics; physics; stringtheory
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To: ClearCase_guy

What you cannot understand destroy.


21 posted on 02/20/2015 6:20:10 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: LibWhacker

Bookmark


22 posted on 02/20/2015 6:24:46 PM PST by aquila48
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To: dragnet2

I am. Time does not “continue into infinity”. Infinity and time are apples and oranges.


23 posted on 02/20/2015 6:26:30 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
∞/∞ is simply 3 symbols which has no meaning. Ever. Of any kind.
24 posted on 02/20/2015 6:27:50 PM PST by FredZarguna (Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Actually, it can be demonstrated that there is one-to-one correspondence between the two sets. Mathematicians refer to both as “countable infinitives”.


25 posted on 02/20/2015 6:29:52 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: kosciusko51

Countable infinitives. Stupid spell check...


26 posted on 02/20/2015 6:31:22 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: kosciusko51

3rd try...

Infinities


27 posted on 02/20/2015 6:32:25 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: LibWhacker

Descarte: I think, therefore I am.

Cry if I Wanna: I think I think, therefore I think I am.


28 posted on 02/20/2015 6:34:26 PM PST by Cry if I Wanna (.)
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To: onedoug

ping


29 posted on 02/20/2015 6:36:14 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Yaelle

Infinity is too big to fail! ;-)


30 posted on 02/20/2015 6:40:09 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

wherever could this take us?

The Ancient of Days.

http://www.patburt.com/


31 posted on 02/20/2015 6:41:43 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: LibWhacker

At some point the numbers exceed the size and particles in the universe, and are confined to theoretical discussions with pencil and paper...


32 posted on 02/20/2015 6:41:43 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: windcliff
Infinity Is a Beautiful Concept

Until one considers it.

33 posted on 02/20/2015 6:41:49 PM PST by onedoug
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

D’oh, re-reading your post, the set of integers and rational are “countable”, but the set of reals is not. Sorry for the error...


34 posted on 02/20/2015 6:43:06 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: 9thLife

Since I never suggested or brought up “time continuing into infinity”, I’m not sure what your point here is.


35 posted on 02/20/2015 6:44:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: onedoug

I was cautioned in my youth to not contemplate “infinity”. They said it would lead to insanity. I think most physicists are insane. I was also told not to stare at the sun.


36 posted on 02/20/2015 6:47:33 PM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: LibWhacker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkFkMjGRg5E


37 posted on 02/20/2015 6:51:09 PM PST by NYFreeper
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To: LibWhacker

I think the problem here is the use of a property not founded (that is not located anywhere) in nature. When talking about scientific inquiry, the study of the elements is always dealing in finite realities since the material world is by definition finite.

And so the question arises, why would science make use of a property which never occurs or appears in the natural world? Not even does it seemingly appear in mathematics as an actual number, since no one can count to an infinity.

However, the concept infinity is somehow graspable to the human mind, but in fact, taken for granted as an existing property of measurable reality. By definition, as an unbounded reality, infinity should not be measured with. But is that really done in science? I’m not qualified to even know if I’m asking the right question there.

Its a curious question, leading to many more unknown questions. I do believe that Human minds grasp metaphysical realities beyond physics however.


38 posted on 02/20/2015 6:54:34 PM PST by Bayard
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To: 9thLife

Anyway, it’s a waste of time to discuss this at this venue, as it will be reduced to potty talk and or not so clever quips.


39 posted on 02/20/2015 6:55:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LibWhacker
You can eat a whole banana. If you cut it into 7 slices it's easier to eat with a fork. Once you cut it into more that 15 pieces it starts to get stupid. But diced into 37 or more pieces then you can use a spoon and it's okay again.

A spork has purpose along the way. You must decide! YOU MUST DECIDE!!!

40 posted on 02/20/2015 6:57:19 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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