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The critical lesson of letting bad employees go
Globe and Mail ^ | February 14, 2015 | ERIC SIU

Posted on 02/14/2015 4:03:10 PM PST by rickmichaels

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To: El Cid

yeah, tell your congressman to vote for’impeachment, and your senators for removal.


41 posted on 02/14/2015 7:52:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Darren McCarty

not all mistakes are equal. you may have been taken in by a good con guy/gal.


42 posted on 02/14/2015 7:53:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: bigredkitty1

wth? everyone is protected except heterosexual white men. everyone else is protected.

what kind of positions do you have? :-)


43 posted on 02/14/2015 7:55:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

If I lived in a normal State/District, I would.


44 posted on 02/14/2015 7:58:10 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: sargon

A job is not an entitlement, it’s a privilege which is enjoyed at the whim of the employer.

...

It’s neither an entitlement or a privilege. If there is no contract, the agreement is mutual and either party can terminate it at any time.


45 posted on 02/14/2015 7:58:17 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: El Cid

Sorry. But you raised a great point, humorously.


46 posted on 02/14/2015 8:00:13 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: goldstategop

Generosity to the wrong person results in dependence and eventual resentment and at the end of the road contempt

I say this daily on this forum

Freepers love blanket issuances

But in employment as a boss there is no one size fits all to dealing with subordinates beyond the obvious

Some folks are gold and some aren’t

Kings were loved for generosity and fairness but respected for how they dealt with enemies and ingrates


47 posted on 02/14/2015 8:04:02 PM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: proxy_user

#3 I think Jack just like the idea of firing people.


48 posted on 02/14/2015 9:00:45 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: rickmichaels

Applies to Presidents too.


49 posted on 02/14/2015 9:09:20 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: sargon

Those of us who live in Southern and Midwestern states find these odd concepts of a "guaranteed job" to be rather alien, and in direct conflict with true Freedom of choice and association.

That's due to the attention to morale and general treatment of the workforce where it has prevailed. You did your part, they would do theirs, and it discouraged either party from harming the other. Freedom to choose was always there, since either party could go, but chose to stay out of the competitive advantage of relatively secure employment.

The goal wasn't to consider each other as reluctant adversaries, but as two individuals with the same goal - and that the security kept each party happy, productive and profitable.

On the other hand, models that reject it or view either party as the problem (stack ranking, permatemping, unions) divert resources from productive action to handling inevitable problems.

No employer owes me a job, even if the job I'm doing is exemplary.

It's not an explicit obligation, but can be an implicit one. A good employer knows that they don't owe someone a job, but that they know full well who will jump ship if they mistreat their talent. An employer that doesn't understand it will (at best) be viewed unfavorably in the job market - no matter how bad.

If one desires job security, then a contract should be signed.

When the job market has more or less gone to "crazy land", like today, that doesn't help as many as it *should*. Contract-based employment is seen as a way to manage the low end and as an attraction for the "rock stars" to visit.

50 posted on 02/14/2015 9:33:30 PM PST by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: setha
No employer owes me a job, even if the job I'm doing is exemplary.

The oddest thing about American business is that employees are expected to be deeply loyal, even though their continued employment is unconnected to job performance.

Then they are shocked --SHOCKED!!-- when someone leaves without much notice for a job that pays better, sometimes much better. Loyalty is a two way street.
51 posted on 02/14/2015 11:33:09 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: rickmichaels

Interesting Thread.

What are these things called “Jobs” that everyone is mentioning?


52 posted on 02/15/2015 12:00:41 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you think the Mulatto Marxist is bad, just wait until the Menopausal Marxist shows up.)
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To: Rusty0604

I don’t like firing either. Paying someone who isn’t earning it is even worse.


53 posted on 02/15/2015 6:23:25 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rickmichaels
the following guidelines in place at my company

If you couldn't learn from lessons provided to you why do you think others will learn from lessons provided from you?

54 posted on 02/15/2015 6:54:06 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

At my company, you have to jump through numerous hoops to fire anyone.


55 posted on 02/15/2015 7:33:04 AM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: pbmaltzman
Ain't that the truth!

I once worked for a tyrant who, among many other things, summarily fired a good employee for not attending the staff Christmas party, and cut the annual sick leave allowance in half for all the employees because one worker abused it.

56 posted on 02/15/2015 7:56:48 AM PST by daler
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To: goldstategop

I think it is better not to give them a reason for the firing.


57 posted on 02/15/2015 8:24:53 AM PST by GeronL
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To: daler

Sounds like something a leftist would do, punish everyone for a bad apple


58 posted on 02/15/2015 8:38:56 AM PST by GeronL
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To: ConservativeInPA

What about the fact that said protected class “person” could turn around and claim (and sue for) discrimination?


59 posted on 02/15/2015 8:46:11 AM PST by __rvx86 (Rafael Cruz Jr: soon to be the first conservative, Latino President of the U.S. ¡Si se puede!)
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