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States with Weak Gun Laws and Higher Gun Ownership Lead Nation in Gun Deaths
vpc.org ^ | 1/30/15

Posted on 01/30/2015 12:18:06 PM PST by BBell

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To: rockinqsranch
States with “strong” gun violence prevention laws were defined as those that add significant state regulation that is absent from federal law, such as restricting access to particularly hazardous and deadly types of firearms (for example, assault weapons), setting minimum safety standards for firearms and/or requiring a permit to purchase a firearm, and restricting the open and concealed carrying of firearms in public.

Well, well, VPC. Looks like you have this exactly ass backwards. And what the hell is a "rate of gun ownership?" Have you gone through every cabinet, cupboard, and gun safe in every state? I don't know what an "assault weapon" is, but I'm hell of a lot safer with my AR than without it. Further, how would you know if my Sig is under my jacket?

Pound sand, idiots.

41 posted on 01/30/2015 1:09:39 PM PST by glock rocks (Whenever I find myself in a conundrum, I ask myself: What would Elvis do?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Lets consider actual numbers and not “rates”


42 posted on 01/30/2015 1:09:41 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Better yet, let’s compare the murder rates of the cities like NYC, DC, Chicago, and LA all of which have tons of gun control laws.


43 posted on 01/30/2015 1:17:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: BBell

Notice that they are reporting “gun death rate” and not the homicide rate.


44 posted on 01/30/2015 1:18:55 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: BBell
Chicago crime rate drops as concealed carry applications surge (Aug 2014)

Since Illinois started granting concealed carry permits this year, the number of robberies that have led to arrests in Chicago has declined 20 percent from last year, according to police department statistics. Reports of burglary and motor vehicle theft are down 20 percent and 26 percent, respectively. In the first quarter, the city’s homicide rate was at a 56-year low.

“It isn’t any coincidence crime rates started to go down when concealed carry was permitted. Just the idea that the criminals don’t know who’s armed and who isn’t has a deterrence effect,” said Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association. “The police department hasn’t changed a single tactic — they haven’t announced a shift in policy or of course — and yet you have these incredible numbers.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all

45 posted on 01/30/2015 1:29:26 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: BBell

Translation: more serious bad guys are getting shot by their intended victims. It is called SERIOUS crime control by making sure the thugs assume room temperature so they will never be a threat again.


46 posted on 01/30/2015 1:48:52 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All

News Flash!

States with the most Hospitals have the most Hospital Deaths!

We can stop most Hospital Deaths if we outlaw Hospitals!

/S

The large majority of “Gun Deaths” are suicides, and most of them are old white guys.

“Gun Deaths” and “Gun Violence” are loaded propaganda terms.


47 posted on 01/30/2015 2:02:31 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This is a totally bogus study. Places with high levels of guns and concealed carry have much lower crime rates.


48 posted on 01/30/2015 2:38:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BBell

Maybe it’s the right people being shot


49 posted on 01/30/2015 2:51:12 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BBell

Any correlation to the percentage of Amish to gun deaths?

Also...cause and effect. Perhaps states with looser gun laws have them due to millions of Amish going around raping and killing whites?


50 posted on 01/30/2015 3:24:41 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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To: BBell

Well yeah. What did they think guns were for?


51 posted on 01/30/2015 3:30:33 PM PST by papertyger ("News" is what journalists want you to hear.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Gun Ownership and Homicide Rates

US as a whole, extremely high gun ownership, highish homicide rate. Now break that down to Republicans and Democrats.

I’d expect to find significantly higher ownership and lower homicide rate for Republicans, the opposite for Democrats.


52 posted on 01/30/2015 3:36:30 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism'; is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: BBell

Because street gangs steal them?


53 posted on 01/30/2015 3:49:11 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: Dead Corpse
Here's why they talk about "gun deaths" rather than "gun murders": Pew Research: Suicides by gun accounted for about six of every 10 firearm deaths in 2010
54 posted on 01/30/2015 3:59:40 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

If you separate black crime from the rest of US crime statistics, the US is as peaceful as Sweden.


55 posted on 01/30/2015 4:08:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

European Murder Rates Compared to the United States

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to.html


56 posted on 01/30/2015 5:21:49 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: IronJack

Not at all.

If there are a lot of justified shootings, they are counted in this study as “gun deaths”. Woman being raped who shoots her attacker? That is a “gun death” according to this “study”.....the word study in quotation marks.

Utter BS and nonsense.

Anything the antis ay is a complete lie. Every time. Bank on that.


57 posted on 01/31/2015 6:04:21 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
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Post of the day!
58 posted on 01/31/2015 6:06:34 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yeah, I should have known. Liars, damned liars, and liberals.


59 posted on 01/31/2015 6:16:11 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks. I think it is something we have preached here at FR for many years.


60 posted on 01/31/2015 7:28:34 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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