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Hitler Said to Have Been Inspired by U.S. Indian Reservation System
Indian Country Today ^ | 01/27/2015 | Simon Moya-Smith

Posted on 01/29/2015 1:32:31 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

FULL TITLE: Ugly Precursor to Auschwitz: Hitler Said to Have Been Inspired by U.S. Indian Reservation System

It was 70 years ago today that the imprisoned and starved and viciously battered victims of Hitler and his Nazi thugs were liberated by Soviet troops.

Hitler – the coward, who’d later commit suicide rather than face the music – was incontrovertibly one of the world’s most brutal and bloodthirsty bastards to ever walk the globe.

Yet, little is it known that he was also a plagiarizer.

The idea of a prison camp – specifically Auschwitz, in Oświęcim, Poland – where Hitler's soldiers could shoot, hang, poison, mutilate and starve men, women and children en mass was not an idea Hitler, the bigot, came up with on his own. In fact, the Pulitzer-Prize winning biographer John Toland wrote that Hitler was inspired in part by the Indian reservation system – a creation of the United States.

“Hitler's concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history,” Toland wrote in his book, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography. “He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America's extermination—by starvation and uneven combat—of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity.”

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To: miss marmelstein; ObamahatesPACoal

Conditions in the camps {Excerpt Wikipedia article on Emily Hobhouse}

She had persuaded the authorities to let her visit several camps and to deliver aid—her report on conditions at the camps, set out in a report entitled “Report of a Visit to the Camps of Women and Children in the Cape and Orange River Colonies”, was delivered to the British government in June 1901. As a result, a formal commission was set up and a team of official investigators headed by Millicent Fawcett was sent to inspect the camps. Overcrowding in bad unhygienic conditions due to neglect and lack of resources were the causes of a mortality rate that in the eighteen months during which the camps were in operation reached a total of 26,370, of which 24,000 were children under sixteen and infants, i.e. the rate at which the children died was some 50 a day. The following extracts from the report by Emily Hobhouse make very clear the extent of culpable neglect by the authorities:

In some camps, two, and even three sets of people, occupy one tent and 10, and even 12, persons are frequently herded together in tents of which the cubic capacity is about 500 c.f.

I call this camp system a wholesale cruelty… To keep these Camps going is murder to the children.

It can never be wiped out of the memories of the people. It presses hardest on the children. They droop in the terrible heat, and with the insufficient unsuitable food; whatever you do, whatever the authorities do, and they are, I believe, doing their best with very limited means, it is all only a miserable patch on a great ill. Thousands, physically unfit, are placed in conditions of life which they have not strength to endure. In front of them is blank ruin… If only the English people would try to exercise a little imagination –picture the whole miserable scene. Entire villages rooted up and dumped in a strange, bare place.

The women are wonderful. They cry very little and never complain. The very magnitude of their sufferings, their indignities, loss and anxiety seems to lift them beyond tears… only when it cuts afresh at them through their children do their feelings flash out.

Some people in town still assert that the Camp is a haven of bliss. I was at the camp to-day, and just in one little corner this is the sort of thing I found – The nurse, underfed and overworked, just sinking on to her bed, hardly able to hold herself up, after coping with some thirty typhoid and other patients, with only the untrained help of two Boer girls–cooking as well as nursing to do herself. Next tent, a six months’ baby gasping its life out on is mother’s knee. Two or three others drooping sick in that tent.
Next, a girl of twenty-one lay dying on a stretcher. The father, a big, gentle Boer kneeling beside her; while, next tent, his wife was watching a child of six, also dying, and one of about five drooping. Already this couple had lost three children in the hospital and so would not let these go, though I begged hard to take them out of the hot tent. I can’t describe what it is to see these children lying about in a state of collapse. It’s just exactly like faded flowers thrown away. And one has to stand and look on at such misery, and be able to do almost nothing.

It was a splendid child and it dwindled to skin and bone ... The baby had got so weak it was past recovery. We tried what we could but today it died. It was only 3 months but such a sweet little thing… It was still alive this morning; when I called in the afternoon they beckoned me in to see the tiny thing laid out, with a white flower in its wee hand. To me it seemed a “murdered innocent”. And an hour or two after another child died. Another child had died in the night, and I found all three little corpses being photographed for the absent fathers to see some day. Two little wee white coffins at the gate waiting, and a third wanted. I was glad to see them, for at Springfontein, a young woman had to be buried in a sack, and it hurt their feelings woefully.

It is such a curious position, hollow and rotten to the heart’s core, to have made all over the State large uncomfortable communities of people whom you call refugees and say you are protecting, but who call themselves prisoners of war, compulsorily detained, and detesting your protection. They are tired of being told by officers that they are refugees under “the kind and beneficient protection of the British”. In most cases there is no pretence that there was treachery, or ammunition concealed, or food given or anything. It was just that an order was given to empty the country. Though the camps are called refugee, there are in reality a very few of these–perhaps only half-a-dozen in some camps. It is easy to tell them, because they are put in the best marquees, and have had time given to them to bring furniture and clothes, and are mostly self-satisfied and vastly superior people. Very few, if any of them, are in want.

Those who are suffering most keenly, and who have lost most, either of their children by death or their possessions by fire and sword, such as those reconcentrated women in the camps, have the most conspicuous patience, and never express a wish that their men should be the ones to give way. It must be fought out now, they think, to the bitter end. It is a very costly business upon which England has embarked, and even at such a cost hardly the barest necessities can be provided, and no comforts. It is so strange to think that every tent contains a family, and every family is in trouble–loss behind, poverty in front, sickness, privation and death in the present. But they are very good, and say they have agreed to be cheerful and make the best of it all. The Mafeking camp folk were very surprised to hear that English women cared a rap about them or their suffering. It has done them a lot of good to hear that real sympathy is felt for them at home, and so I am glad I fought my way here, if only for that reason.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Hobhouse


21 posted on 01/29/2015 1:52:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The concentration camp as an idea isn’t too hard of a concept to come up with.


22 posted on 01/29/2015 1:53:00 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cripplecreek
The engineering of consent is the very essence of the democratic process,

Known today as "Gruberizing"

23 posted on 01/29/2015 1:53:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Argus
The modern death camp was invented by Lenin and super sized by Stalin. These two were Hitler’s real role models.

It's not as crazy as you think. We forget that during the 1920's, a number of Germans got secret military aviation training in the Soviet Union--and those Germans may have heard about the labor camps that the Bolsheviks created right after the Russian Revolution and were already quite active by the late 1920's when Stalin took power and tremendously expanded them.

24 posted on 01/29/2015 1:54:39 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true. Hitler was known to ramble for hours on various subjects, and if he’s talking exterminations (or near extermination) of races it almost inevitable that the American Indians would come up. He definitely referenced the Armenian genocide.


25 posted on 01/29/2015 1:58:49 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: BenLurkin

“When the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum first began to document all of the camps, the belief was that the list would total approximately 7,000. However, researchers found that the Nazis had actually established about 20,000 camps between 1933 and 1945.”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/howmanycamps.html

I also recently heard numbers that were around 10,000 camps. Still astounding.


26 posted on 01/29/2015 2:01:31 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal; Responsibility2nd

South Africa’s Separate Amenities Act (Apartheid) was modelled on Canada’s Indian Act; they sent a commission here to study the reserve system before drafting the law.


27 posted on 01/29/2015 2:01:46 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: BenLurkin
The reservations still stink so what's your point? That the reservations led to Auschwitz? Any 90 IQ can come up with the idea that rounding up people and executing them worked to cull the herd. Hitler kinda perfected it.
28 posted on 01/29/2015 2:02:55 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The eugenics movement was embraced by “progressives” everywhere at about the same time.


29 posted on 01/29/2015 2:03:56 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: miss marmelstein

The excerpt is about what the British did during the Boer War — which was the likely inspiration for the Nazis.

It is not about any American reservations.


30 posted on 01/29/2015 2:04:24 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: forgotten man
Yes! The Krauts at that time loved cowboys and Indians and played games. There was an author - Karl something or other who wrote novels about the Old West which inspired these brats. But that doesn't lead to Auschwitz, of course. As another freeper said, the idea of a camp ain't anything new or original.
31 posted on 01/29/2015 2:06:54 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: BenLurkin

Then someone needs to get rid of the headline.


32 posted on 01/29/2015 2:07:37 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: BenLurkin

I see what you’re saying. I just jumped the gun and skimmed your post. Tired, is the only excuse! As well as being a typical Freeper.

But surely, this didn’t lead to the Holocaust?


33 posted on 01/29/2015 2:11:58 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

Hitler was a sick person. Very sick, as were his henchmen and underlings. And — as pointed out up thread — they were fed on Godless “progressive” ideas from the late 19th and early 20th Century.

That is what led to the holocaust, IMO.


34 posted on 01/29/2015 2:14:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

-Bernays

If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it.

-Bernays

The sad part is that Bernays wasn't one of the real nasty progressives of the day like George Creel and Walter Lipmann.
35 posted on 01/29/2015 2:16:03 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Baloney. I’ve studied the trail of tears. It was rough by today’s standards but handled as well as they could do it back then. They certainly didn’t starve or gas them. They pleaded with Indians that signed the treaty to voluntarily leave but finally rounded them up and marched them. They went around big cities and way out of their way because they didn’t want the people to suffer the sight of the marching “savages”. I thought that was pretty stupid and represents the discrimination that existed at the time.

It was rough but nothing like nazi’s. Poor general that carried it out was an honorable humane man forced to carry out an ugly operation. I say all this as someone who is part cherokee.


36 posted on 01/29/2015 2:25:39 PM PST by plain talk
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To: BenLurkin

Hitler was also a product of time and place. At one time he was an artist living in a park and had showed no signs of anti-semitism up to that point.


37 posted on 01/29/2015 2:26:37 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Was Hitler going to turn the concentration camps into casinos? Some “native Americans” are living the good life these days.


38 posted on 01/29/2015 2:27:35 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So the good ole USA is to blame for the holocaust?

Blame America first, I suppose.

Looking up the cited author (Toland)...he’s been dead for 11 years. So this ‘bombshell’ certainly did percolate for a while. His Hitler book was published in 1976. He is also the original conspiracy theorist that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance.

The article’s author (Smith)...the one who cherry picked info from a 40 year old book as if it were new...all Indian grievance, all the time:

https://twitter.com/simonmoyasmith


39 posted on 01/29/2015 2:39:36 PM PST by lacrew (5th)
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To: cripplecreek

Racialist ideas have their roots in 18th century France.


40 posted on 01/29/2015 2:43:10 PM PST by Borges
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