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A Secular Case Against Abortion
http://www.prolifehumanists.org ^ | May 13, 2013 | by Kristine Kruszelnicki

Posted on 01/25/2015 9:08:11 AM PST by Para-Ord.45

“Is there really such a thing as a pro-life atheist?” asked Marco Rosaire Rossi in the September/October edition of the The Humanist. “What’s next, Intelligent Design Agnostics? How about Secularists for Sharia Law?”

Atheists may not have a pope, but in the eyes of many there is still a proper dogma that all good atheists must adhere to. To be an atheist is to support abortion. Fail to do so and you will be denounced as “secretly religious.” When I joined an agnostic and an atheist from Secular Pro-Life for an information table at the 2012 American Atheist Convention, a popular atheist blogger accused us outright of having “actually lied about being atheist.” [Edit: She also seriously misheard and misconstrued the point of my green banana analogy!]

There is an obvious reluctance to accept that non-religious pro-lifers exist. But we do exist.

Would we kill a two year-old whose father suddenly abandons his unemployed mother, in order to ease the mother’s budget or prevent the child from growing up in poverty? Would we dismember a young preschooler if there were indications she might grow up in an abusive home? If the preborn are indeed human beings, we have a social duty to find compassionate ways to support women, that do not require the death of one in order to solve the problems of the other.

(Excerpt) Read more at prolifehumanists.org ...


TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife; secularprolife
Dated article but relevant in regards to the March for Life (Jan.22)
1 posted on 01/25/2015 9:08:11 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

I never understood leftist logic, an adult or teen practicing unhealthy behavior is more in need of protection than a child in the womb? Sounds pretty contradictory to the liberal claim that they protect the weak and vulnerable.


2 posted on 01/25/2015 9:14:01 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Para-Ord.45

I think that the answer a “true” atheist would make to these questions would be yes, it would be better. Of course C.S. Lewis says that whenever a judgment of better or worse or compassionate verses cruel is made there is an acknowledgement that there is a higher good. Once an atheist admits that there is a higher good he/she has to explain how that is known and whether there isn’t a God who decrees that higher good. The Muslim who beheads a Christian girl who will not convert is simply saying that he is doing the will of allah. So would the atheist say that this is simply a cultural difference?


3 posted on 01/25/2015 9:17:07 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Para-Ord.45

Anybody who isn’t willfully ignorant can see that abortion is infanticide.


4 posted on 01/25/2015 9:17:21 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Mercat

“I think that the answer a “true” atheist would make to these questions would be yes, it would be better. Of course C.S. Lewis says that whenever a judgment of better or worse or compassionate verses cruel is made there is an acknowledgement that there is a higher good.”

The higher good for a wise atheist would be self preservation. In other words he would understand that by protecting all human life he would in the final analysis be protecting his own.

It’s the slippery slope argument.

When you boil it down to its essence the fight between pro-lifers and abortionists is about when life begins. Everything thing else is just noise.


5 posted on 01/25/2015 9:41:12 AM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Actually I think that pro-choicers if confronted with scientific facts would admit that a fertilized egg is alive. The debate is whether that life is important or worthy of preserving. They say “no.” They want to use a balance approach. i.e. is the mother’s life worth more. That’s the slippery slope and so we let ourselves get caught up in a debate about the pregnancy being because of rape. How could we insist that a woman give birth to a baby when the biological father raped her? Well, yes, we can insist because its not about the mother, its about the baby, the life within. Once we concede that issue, we’re cooked. So then they will want to say, well, mercat, what if your 14 year old granddaughter were raped and got pregnant... to which I would say that if she can deliver the baby without it killing her (she could) then she should deliver the baby. Her family would take care of her. Killing her baby would be more destructive to her than carrying and delivering it. And on and on.


6 posted on 01/25/2015 9:47:48 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Para-Ord.45
Is there a secular case against murder? I think so.
7 posted on 01/25/2015 10:35:36 AM PST by Salman
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To: Para-Ord.45; All

https://www.facebook.com/ProLifePagans

https://twitter.com/prolifepagans

Their motto as pagans is “do as you will but harm none”

I have news for you that “harm none” also means a person can’t harm themselves or the baby within. A woman needs to consider this if she BEFORE she obtains an abortion. I know some pagans work in abortion clinics but they are not following their own rule.


8 posted on 01/25/2015 11:05:00 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Nat Hentoff is pro-life and, the last I heard, an atheist.

The Roman poet Ovid was a hedonistic pagan and thought that abortion was horrible.

9 posted on 01/25/2015 2:01:27 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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