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How did Colts know Patriots' balls weren't inflated? And Gronk takes blame
Shutdown Corner (Yahoo Sports) ^ | 1/20/15 | Frank Schwab

Posted on 01/20/2015 8:41:28 AM PST by Kartographer

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To: Blood of Tyrants

Each team has it’s own set of 12 footballs that it supplies. QB’s are particular in terms of how they are broken in. A new football has a coating of waxy plastic on it, for example.

Anyway, the only way one team would know about the ball thing is during a fumble or interception.

The ODD thing is that the refs ought to know too. During NE’s offensive series, the refs are in a position to figure this out, and perhaps didn’t.

There are an additional 12 backup footballs supplied by the home team in case either side runs out.


61 posted on 01/20/2015 10:04:57 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Kartographer

Or... Hey, the GOP turned out a crappy candidate in 2012 and Barack Obama won in a landslide. What difference does it make that some of the precincts turned out 110% of their registered voters who all magically voted Democrat? Quit bitching, crybabies!


62 posted on 01/20/2015 10:04:59 AM PST by ponygirl (Cacao to the GOPe.)
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To: kidd
I just tested this.

If you deflate a ball enough to feel the difference when holding it, it makes it impossible to throw a tight spiral.

No way those balls were deflated, or TB wouldn't have been able to throw it as well as he did.

63 posted on 01/20/2015 10:05:21 AM PST by Gargantua ("...Fee tine a mady..." ;^)
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To: Kartographer
If everyone is doing it, it doesn't give any one an unfair advantage.

Cheating is wrong. What Belicheck did wasn't cheating.

But it does provide fodder for mouth-breathing, inbred imbeciles to unfairly hate on the winningest team, quarterback and coach in NFL history.

64 posted on 01/20/2015 10:08:07 AM PST by Gargantua ("...Fee tine a mady..." ;^)
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To: Kartographer

Waiting for the call for nerf balls to prevent injuries, and prevent fraud.


65 posted on 01/20/2015 10:08:42 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Gargantua
Remember folks the offensive co-ordinator & QB coach for the Patriots is none other than Josh McDaniels.

He was caught up in a cheating scandal while head coach for the Broncos.

It was during the annual London game and it had to do with one of his assistants taping the opposing teams practice session.

The Broncos later that same season fired McDaniels and the taping scandal was cited as one of the reasons.

66 posted on 01/20/2015 10:11:05 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Gargantua

” inbred imbeciles to unfairly hate on the winningest team, quarterback and coach in NFL history.”

Thank you.

(I have to admit I often felt that way about The Yankees)

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67 posted on 01/20/2015 10:11:14 AM PST by Mears
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To: Gargantua

Haters gotta Hate.


68 posted on 01/20/2015 10:11:36 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: BluH2o

My 3 year-old niece doeosn’t whine as good (or as often) as you. Nice job!


69 posted on 01/20/2015 10:13:10 AM PST by Gargantua ("...Fee tine a mady..." ;^)
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To: Kartographer

Disclaimer: not a fan of either team, just an observation from having watched the game.

The Pats were quite methodical and mechanical [pretty much as usual] in their dissection of the Colts...Pats fans enjoyed it, Colts fans not so much.

The ball “gate” nonsense is just that, nonsense. The final score says about all that needs to be said on the matter. The Pats clearly outplayed the Colts in all facets of the game.


70 posted on 01/20/2015 10:14:35 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: timestax

Fined and punished for taping from the sidelines after the memo went out to not tape from the sidelines... remember?

Big whoop. Pats got slammed for doing what everyone else was doing.

Even Jimmy Johnson talked about taping while he was a coaching.

Get over it...


71 posted on 01/20/2015 10:15:02 AM PST by CTyank
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To: GilesB

“Did you read what I posted?”

Twice.
No, it did not make a difference in the outcome. However, not only did the Pats score more points in the second half. They also gained more rushing yards in the second half with the correctly inflated balls which apparently are harder to hold on to.


72 posted on 01/20/2015 10:16:32 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: BluH2o

...and how many of those teams were entertaining him for head coaching jobs this year?


73 posted on 01/20/2015 10:18:39 AM PST by CTyank
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To: CTyank

The difference was EVERY OTHER team was doing it from the first or second row of the stands. The Pats had someone standing on the sidelines. All the rest moved their camera people up into the stands. When the Pats didn’t. They were fined.


74 posted on 01/20/2015 10:20:16 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I don’t know. Does each team use a different lockbox of balls?

Why does not the NFL supply the balls instead of the teams?


75 posted on 01/20/2015 10:20:54 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Mr. K

Exactly!

I was talking with a guy who was a retired football Ref, Texas High School ball. He said this was highly unlikely if not impossible, because Refs feel the ball between each play and after years they can tell within a few ounces and the balls are traded out to the Ballboy anytime anything out of the ordinary with a ball is seen or felt. The balls are all pressure checked by the Officials before the game and at halftime.

His other point was “just how did this deflation take place? By a player poking a needle during running with the ball?


76 posted on 01/20/2015 10:22:59 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: RinaseaofDs; Blood of Tyrants; Kartographer

Aren’t the officials supposed to inspect the balls about 2 hours before the game?


77 posted on 01/20/2015 10:23:46 AM PST by GeronL
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To: woodbutcher1963

And?

I still don’t understand how your argument is relevant to what I posted.

Just a hint - just because the ball is harder to hang on to, doesn’t mean that there will be more fumbles or fewer yards in a specific game. Over time, yes, in one game, maybe and maybe not.

OFC - the underinflated ball is supposed to make a difference in passing and receiving also, not just carrying the ball.

These are all not measurable in small sample sets, such as a game or a half. But if it doesn’t make a difference, why is there a rule about inflating the ball?


78 posted on 01/20/2015 10:27:16 AM PST by GilesB
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To: Nervous Tick

If this was checked out at halftime it should have been straightened out then. That would mean the Colts should have been more competitive in the second half of the game. That’s not how I remember the game.


79 posted on 01/20/2015 10:50:34 AM PST by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: Gargantua
As a long time NFL Bronco season ticket holder I simply point out McDaniels and his boss Belichick have a history of gaming the system. Cost (at least in part) McDaniels his job as coach with the Broncos, Belichick was fined heavily by the NFL for his transgression of taping opposing teams practice and their sideline signal calling. There's an established pattern, so it gives credibility to the possibility they are up to their old tricks.
80 posted on 01/20/2015 11:03:00 AM PST by BluH2o
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