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Source tells Bob Kravitz that Patriots may have deflated footballs in DeflateGate scandal
WTHR ^ | Updated: Jan 19, 2015 6:34 AM EST

Posted on 01/19/2015 4:15:01 AM PST by Perdogg

A source within the NFL tells wthr.com's Bob Kravitz that the league is investigating the possibility that the Patriots deflated footballs in their 45-7 win over the Colts Sunday night.

The source told Kravitz that officials took a ball out of play at one point and weighed it.

A deflated football could potentially be easier to throw and catch in poor weather conditions than a properly inflated ball.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Sports
KEYWORDS: bobkravitz; cheaters; colts; deflategate; deflatriots; indiana; indianapolis; indianapoliscolts; newengland; newenglandpatriots; nfl; patriots
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Just simple physics - one can more easily squeeze vs a fully inflated that is larger, harder and less “gripable.

Anyone who has played street football or even just passing it would grasp that reality.

It’s not rocket science...


61 posted on 01/19/2015 6:23:04 AM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: netguide

If weighed in a scientific laboratory.


62 posted on 01/19/2015 6:25:17 AM PST by mylife
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To: Perdogg

The real scandal is that supposedly a professional football team from Indianapolis traveled to New England to play in the AFC Championship game and rolled over.

Measuring the diameter of the ball would probably be more accurate a method in determining the inflation without using a pressure gauge.

The trick for the person who is purportedly deflating the ball though is to know how much is enough?


63 posted on 01/19/2015 6:25:18 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Perdogg

What I see here in many of the post on this thread is so very indicative of our times.

1. If I cheat, but the other side does play as well as I do then it isn’t really cheating.

2. If I cheat, but in very clever way not only am I not punished, but am lauded for my cleverness.

3. If cheat as long as I win “What deference does it make?”


64 posted on 01/19/2015 6:25:24 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: fso301

With the same balls, controlled by the same refs. This is hokum.


65 posted on 01/19/2015 6:42:29 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: Rick66

And how they made the field goal posts narrower for Indy’s kick, and wider for the Pats...lol.

This is all bunk. The only deflated balls were wearing Colts jerseys....hahahaha


66 posted on 01/19/2015 6:45:33 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("I'm not questioning your honor...I'm denying its existence." - Tyrion Lannister)
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To: babble-on
"...but Belicheck is a known cheater..."

You chose an exceptionally apt logon. You're either a Jets, Bills, Dolphins, Rams, Panthers or Eagles fan.

All those losers cling to the "Belicheck cheated" myth just because they got handed their asses by the Pats.

Tha Patriots are the winningest team in the history of the NFL, and it has nothing to do with "cheating," and everything to do with an absolute commitment to excellence. Sad to say, America used to honor this.

Deal with it.

67 posted on 01/19/2015 6:47:58 AM PST by Gargantua ("...Fee tine a mady..." ;^)
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To: Perdogg

The Pats had regular size balls. They deflated them a bit. Then the Colts had larger balls. But the Pats still won. Size matters?


68 posted on 01/19/2015 6:50:05 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: catfish1957

refer to the Ideal Gas Theory, P V = N R T


69 posted on 01/19/2015 6:50:09 AM PST by Gargantua ("...Fee tine a mady..." ;^)
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To: Perdogg

Clearly the refs handed different balls to the Colts every time they gained possession. As for the weather, it’s obvious Pats owner Krafty Bob had planes seed the clouds over Gillette Stadium to produce rain (unrelated to the other rain falling in New England at the time) :)


70 posted on 01/19/2015 6:51:58 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Cry if I Wanna

Do you still pull the wings off of flies?


71 posted on 01/19/2015 6:51:58 AM PST by Gargantua ("...Fee tine a mady..." ;^)
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To: ZOOKER

>>ran out of Luck

Bad Luck! That’s what you got, that’s what you got
—Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLAiEynxvtI


72 posted on 01/19/2015 6:55:54 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Cry if I Wanna

Did it keep the Indy defense from stopping the run?

Did it keep the Indy defense from not getting pressure on Brady?

The fact is Indy played horribly. They CAN NOT stop the run. They had virtually no pass rush. They never controlled the line of scrimmage, EVER. You can not throw it to TY Hilton every down. Vinitari has never kicked well outdoors. If I was an Indy fan, I would be embarrassed. Baltimore was a better team.

The fact is the two best teams in the league are in the Super Bowl.


73 posted on 01/19/2015 6:58:01 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Gargantua
Remember folks the offensive co-ordinator & QB coach for the Patriots is none other than Josh McDaniels.
He was caught up in a cheating scandal while head coach for the Broncos.
It was during the annual London game and it had to do with one of his assistants taping the opposing teams practice session.
The Broncos later that same season fired McDaniels and the taping scandal was cited as one of the reasons.
74 posted on 01/19/2015 7:00:20 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Kartographer

Actually nobody on this thread is saying any of those things. What’s being said is “how would they do this since they don’t control the balls during game time, and why would they bother since both sides play with the same balls not controlled by them during game time”. Simply put this is just a silly accusation. If the refs weighed any balls (a big if) it was probably because they were worried it had gotten too wet and too heavy to be usable, not that a basically undetectable (especially by weight, in the rain) amount of air had been taken out.


75 posted on 01/19/2015 7:07:54 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: babble-on

You, babble-on, are clearly the one who is seriously that stupid. How would any person change the air content of the ball, while on national television, during a game and not be challenged by the referees?


76 posted on 01/19/2015 7:10:44 AM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: discostu
There was a point in the third quarter where the game was delayed by the refs while they got a game ball on the field. They apparently had a kickoff ball that does not get scuffed up enough to play with.
77 posted on 01/19/2015 7:12:36 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: newfreep

“A slightly deflated ball is easier to grip tightly in wet and/or cold weather.”

Did the poor Colts have to use a different ball than those black hearted Patriots?


78 posted on 01/19/2015 7:14:13 AM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Perdogg

A deflated football weighs the same as in inflated football. If they took it out of play to weigh it then they know football but not science.


79 posted on 01/19/2015 7:14:53 AM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: woodbutcher1963

“Vinitari has never kicked well outdoors.”

As a Patriots’s fan, I have to say that this has to be the dumbest comment on this thread. From wiki:

Adam Matthew Vinatieri (born December 28, 1972) is an American football placekicker for the Indianapolis Colts of the National Football League (NFL). He has played in five Super Bowls, four with the New England Patriots and one with the Colts. Vinatieri won Super Bowls in 2001, 2003, and 2004 with the Patriots, as well in 2006 with the Colts. He is the first kicker ever to win four Super Bowl rings. As of the 2014 season, Vinatieri, 42, is the oldest active player in the NFL.

Vinatieri has been called “Mr. Clutch” by the media due to his reputation for success when kicking under pressure during his tenure in the National Football League. Nicknamed “Automatic Adam” for his accuracy, and “Iceman” for his poise under pressure, Vinatieri has converted several of the most crucial field goals in NFL history, including the game-tying and -winning kicks in blizzard conditions in the infamous “Tuck Rule Game”, and game-winning kicks in the final seconds of two Super Bowls (XXXVI, XXXVIII).

Career NFL statistics as of 2014
Field goals 478
Field goal attempts 571
Field goal % 83.7
Long field goal 57
Points scored 2,142

I don’t know if these stats include last night game. his iki page said he is 5 for 6 this post season.


80 posted on 01/19/2015 7:22:33 AM PST by Steven Scharf
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