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Oceans not acidifying – “scientists” hid 80 years of pH data
joannenova.com.au ^ | January 5th, 2015 | Joanne

Posted on 01/10/2015 12:20:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That makes sense. Anyone who studies diatoms knows that they lock up an amazing amount of carbon.


21 posted on 01/10/2015 1:12:29 PM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I had a twenty-something “scientist” gal try to convince me that the oceans were acidifying. She couldn’t even identify her data set or how they determined a baseline for ocean acidity. That’s the state of science in America.


22 posted on 01/10/2015 1:20:38 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Government is political by nature and politics is lying for a cause. Why should we be surprised?

We need to get government out of science. Even in the basic research field you don’t need government.


23 posted on 01/10/2015 1:22:51 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I had a circa 1850 book and they had a long article on this PH thing so I think they picked their own cutoff dates.


24 posted on 01/10/2015 1:36:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
> experts decided that computer simulations in 2014 were better at measuring the pH in 1910 than the pH meters were.

The Richard Feynman quote seems appropriate here.

Compare it directly with observation to see if it works. If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn't make a difference how beautiful your guess is, it doesn't make a difference how smart you are, who made the guess or what his name is. If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. -- Video

25 posted on 01/10/2015 1:41:45 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

These employees should not be smiling-

Dr. Richard A. Feely
Senior Scientist
richard.a.feely@noaa.gov
NOAA/PMEL
Division: Ocean Climate
Project: Ocean Carbon
Dr. Christopher Sabine
PMEL Director
chris.sabine@noaa.gov
NOAA/PMEL
Division: Office of the Director
Project: Ocean Carbon

Pix at http://pmel.noaa.gov/people?field_staff_affiliation_target_id=All&field_pmel_division_target_id=All&title=&field_proj_url_target_id=122


26 posted on 01/10/2015 1:44:03 PM PST by gasport (Immigration reform means arriving in air-conditioned comfort.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you for posting this! Good stuff.


27 posted on 01/10/2015 1:44:42 PM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: eyeamok
When you realize that all of this FRAUD was used to get MONEY from the TAXPAYERS, Prison is probably too lenient.

That is the reason that after the headline the always insert a weasel word such as may, or might, or could to change the meaning of the headline.

28 posted on 01/10/2015 1:44:48 PM PST by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: All
Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]

Dear Administrator Jackson:

I write in regard to the Proposed Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, Proposed Rule, 74 Fed. Reg. 18,886 (Apr. 24, 2009), the so-called "Endangerment Finding."

It has been often said that the "science is settled" on the issue of CO2 and climate. Let me put this claim to rest with a simple one-letter proof that it is false.

The letter is s, the one that changes model into models. If the science were settled, there would be precisely one model, and it would be in agreement with measurements.

Alternatively, one may ask which one of the twenty-some models settled the science so that all the rest could be discarded along with the research funds that have kept those models alive.

We can take this further. Not a single climate model predicted the current cooling phase. If the science were settled, the model (singular) would have predicted it.

(excerpted from Professor Hayden's letter to Lisa P. Jackson, Administrator Environmental Protection Agency. More at link.)


29 posted on 01/10/2015 1:44:57 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: nascarnation

Acid rain, the result of coal sulphur going up into the atmosphere, was real. (Scrubbers took care of that) And what goes up, must come down. The thing was, that all those sulphur crystals in the atmosphere actually reflected sunlight/heat.

Cooler planet, but acid rain in certain places based upon prevailing winds and moisture.

An unintended consequence of cleaning up the air, things got a little warmer. So Mother Earth did what Mother Earth had always done, and adjusted, and it got warmer until mother earth did her thing and adjusted again.

Sulphur in the atmosphere is bad, CO2 is not. It may be toxic to mammals and most breathing things, but for plants it’s O2.

Not everything we do on this earth is benign. Blasting off megaton nukes in open air is a really bad idea, for example.

Just sayin


30 posted on 01/10/2015 1:55:01 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: srmorton

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


31 posted on 01/10/2015 2:39:24 PM PST by abclily
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Everywhere you look you see these pukes lyings their behinds off for money. There is a dispicable collusion between government and scientific studies that has to be stopped!


32 posted on 01/10/2015 2:50:26 PM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is Settled Science:


33 posted on 01/10/2015 2:54:43 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

LOL!


34 posted on 01/10/2015 3:14:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; ...
Thanks Ernest!

35 posted on 01/10/2015 3:31:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The entire narrative on ocean acidification is incorrect. You might claim that the ocean is being nuetralized or becoming less basic, but it has a long ways to go before it even begins to acidify.

But of course, that doesn’t sound scary enough for the warmunists.


36 posted on 01/10/2015 3:41:07 PM PST by 5by5
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
“But all the Science is in..” /s

Global Cooling Global Warming Climate Change Climate Disruption...if the science is in, why does the name keep changing?

37 posted on 01/10/2015 4:18:10 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AFreeBird
Acid rain, the result of coal sulphur going up into the atmosphere, was real.

Excuse me, but do you have a cite for that? If I recall, the UN spent 5 years and spent $800,000,000 looking for some evidence, and came up with zip, and their report said so.

We first started to hear about acid rain when car paint started to peel off in the late '70's. It turned out that the EPA had mandated a reformulation of paint to reduce fumes from drying paint. It took a few years (10) to get that straight.

Scrubbers on coal fired plants had been mandated since the late '60's. So what happened to acid rain? It went to the same place that the dreaded ozone hole went. A discredited scare story.

38 posted on 01/10/2015 5:08:55 PM PST by Wingy
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To: AlaskaErik
Global Cooling Global Warming Climate Change Climate Disruption...if the science is in, why does the name keep changing?

Here is a prediction that I know for a fact will come true.

Ahem.

"For centuries to come, years will pass."

Thank you. All the adulation is welcome and warranted. You're welcome to borrow it. Feel Free to use it. . . just give proper attribution to Swordmaker.

39 posted on 01/10/2015 8:17:37 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: abclily

Your suggested argument is not based on physical reasoning, it is purely rhetorical and suggestive.

1. immaterial

2. no objective physical meaning - a rhetorical premise.

3. given to suggest a syllogism

4. redundant with 1.

5. subjective, and immaterial.

Study question: assumes the rhetorical premise - a mere trick.


40 posted on 01/10/2015 8:31:28 PM PST by dr_lew
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