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Obama Administration Signs United Nations Arms Trade Treaty
NRA-ILA ^ | September 25, 2013 | NRA

Posted on 12/02/2014 7:29:03 AM PST by SisterK

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To: SisterK

Sorry, that was outdated info, it has been ratified by 54 nations.

http://www.un.org/disarmament/ATT/

But it still requires our congressional approval.


21 posted on 12/02/2014 7:47:17 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

sweet
thanks


22 posted on 12/02/2014 7:48:47 AM PST by SisterK
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To: SisterK

I understand and you should rightly be concerned because this man is an American-hating Muslim.

On my part, I am deadly serious about anyone coming to my home under aegis of this “UN whatever”. They will not abridge my rights in this. I’ll die first.


23 posted on 12/02/2014 7:48:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: thackney

It requires 2/3 of the Senate....


24 posted on 12/02/2014 7:49:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SisterK

oops
premature jubilation


25 posted on 12/02/2014 7:49:34 AM PST by SisterK
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To: thackney

54 nations. That only tells us there are at least 54 countries controlled by zealots and slavers (of the mind and/or body). Tyrants, despots, religious zealots, panderers, pimps and madmen.


26 posted on 12/02/2014 7:50:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Doesn’t go “into effect” until is has been ratified by 2/3 of the Senate.

Isn't it 2/3 of Senators "present" after a quorum call? 13 isn't it? Dirty Harry Ried could fly Schumer, Feinstein, Durbin, and 10 other commies in on Christmas Eve on his private jet to call a quorum and quickly vote this in with ALOT fewer than 67 Senators IIRC.

Please correct me if wrong.

27 posted on 12/02/2014 7:51:33 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: SisterK

He does this sort of crap to placate his far left supporters and to keep his commie handlers happy. He knows this “treaty” doesn’t have a prayer of Senate ratification. Totally predictable.


28 posted on 12/02/2014 7:52:16 AM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: DCBryan1

I really don’t know but I would suspect our founding fathers would have drafted such wording to mean “a quorum”...the very 2/3 stipulations tells me they were concerned about a substantial majority and that would not infer they were just willing to accept a “quorum”. Liberals and others might try to fancy out some argument about “quorum” but it’s just a diversion from the real point.


29 posted on 12/02/2014 7:54:19 AM PST by Gaffer
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is it not 2/3 of those present in the senate when ratification is brought to the floor?

I believe it is based entirely on how many members of the senate are present at the time it is brought to the floor, not total count regardless of attendance.


30 posted on 12/02/2014 7:55:01 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: jurroppi1

See #29. It just does not follow “quorum”


31 posted on 12/02/2014 7:56:19 AM PST by Gaffer
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32 posted on 12/02/2014 7:57:39 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Gaffer

Has no more meaning as the Kyoto that A.Gore signed Senate will not ratify and any competent court would find it unconstitutional (I know the word competent is a big one)


33 posted on 12/02/2014 7:58:07 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: CodeToad

That’s what I’m talkin’ bout!


34 posted on 12/02/2014 7:59:18 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Glad I could help.


35 posted on 12/02/2014 7:59:55 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: SisterK

Come get ‘em...just don’t forget that whole “behind every blade of grass” thing.


36 posted on 12/02/2014 8:01:53 AM PST by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: SisterK

37 posted on 12/02/2014 8:03:35 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: Gaffer

Can it be long before we hear “if you like your guns, you can keep your guns”?


38 posted on 12/02/2014 8:09:12 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Gaffer; SisterK
A treaty is a treaty. The US Constitution has strict requirements for passage that requires Senate ratification. If it’s not a Treaty then it cannot be enforced if it violates other Constitutional guarantees.

The thread which SisterK references in #10, is about whether the Vienna Convention treaty, which the US ratified a while back, covers subsequent UN agreements. In other words whether, by ratifying the Vienna treaty, the US bound ourselves to treaties formed by the UN afterwards. In my opinion, this would be unconstitutional.

39 posted on 12/02/2014 8:09:56 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Starboard

Maybe...but I already have my guns....enough for every member of my family...several times over.

They won’t get them unless they kill me.


40 posted on 12/02/2014 8:11:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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