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DOJ warns Apple: iPhone encryption will lead to a child dying
MacDailyNews ^ | Wednesday, November 19, 2014 ยท 5:23 pm

Posted on 11/20/2014 12:57:41 AM PST by Swordmaker

“The No. 2 official at the Justice Department recently warned top Apple executives that stronger encryption protections added to iPhones would lead to a horrific tragedy, such as a child dying, because police couldn’t access a suspect’s device, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday,” Dan Goodin reports for Ars Technica.

“The beefed up protections, Apple recently disclosed, mean that even when company officials are served with a court order, they will be unable to retrieve potentially crucial evidence such as photos, messages, or contacts stored on iPhones and iPads,” Goodin reports. “Instead, the data can be accessed only by people who know the passcode that serves as the encryption key.”

“Prior to changes introduced in iOS 8, Apple had the means to pull data off of a locked phone, and according to the WSJ, the company helped police do just that when it was served with a valid court order. Under the latest iOS version, the data can be recovered only by knowing the passcode. Passcodes that are sufficiently long and complex make it infeasible for Apple or anyone else to crack,” Goodin reports. “US Attorney General Eric Holder recently said it was ‘worrisome’ that tech companies were adding default encryption to consumer electronics. Apple CEO Tim Cook recently pushed back at a WSJ conference, saying ‘”Look, if law enforcement wants something, they should go to the user and get it. It’s not for me to do that.’”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; backdoor; doj
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1 posted on 11/20/2014 12:57:41 AM PST by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Obama's Department of Justice #2 guy uses the "It's for the Children" ploy against Apple over the inability to break into Apple's iOS devices and iCloud. "If you don't change it so we can get in, you are going to kill a kid!" — PING!


Apple security Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 11/20/2014 1:01:30 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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Oh, what a transparent, desperate ploy on the part of the JustUS Dept.

Don't include the security feature, or the kid will die.

Pathetic!

3 posted on 11/20/2014 1:25:42 AM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: sauron
Don't include the security feature, or the kid will die.

Is there ever an issue with these freaks, that is not done for the children?

4 posted on 11/20/2014 1:31:57 AM PST by Mark17 (Uninvited he sat down and opened up his mind, about old dogs and children, and watermelon wine)
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To: Mark17
Is there ever an issue with these freaks, that is not done for the children?

Because they know it taps into women's emotional core. The last thing they want is anyone thinking calmly or rationally.

5 posted on 11/20/2014 1:36:02 AM PST by southern rock
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To: Swordmaker

Good for Apple. Keep it up.

I wish my former employer would do the same.


6 posted on 11/20/2014 1:37:15 AM PST by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: Swordmaker

Well, if the kid was wearing a Hawaiian Shirt, they probably deserved it.

And don’t think of it as the murder of a child, think of it as a post-partum abortion. . . (evil grin)


7 posted on 11/20/2014 1:42:55 AM PST by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: Salgak
And don’t think of it as the murder of a child, think of it as a post-partum abortion. . . (evil grin)

WELL. . . it depends on what the kid was doing at the time. Was he standing there holding a gun on the store holder, demanding "Gimee Mo Money, Mo F. . . ." as he falls down from the shotgun blast through the chest? Or was he process of abusing other, smaller children with nefarious, perverted deeds in mind? Or perhaps he's in the middle of holding down an unwilling young girl who is attempting to shout "NO!" if it wasn't for the knife he's holding to her throat and the big fist he's about to knock her unconscious with. . . Then I'm down for that. . .

8 posted on 11/20/2014 1:52:16 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

So will No-Knock raids, but you don’t see the DOJ asking cops to give * them* up.


9 posted on 11/20/2014 2:00:06 AM PST by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: Swordmaker
DOJ...warned top Apple executives that stronger encryption protections added to iPhones would lead to a horrific tragedy, such as a child dying...

It would be an easy argument to make that government is actually just a manifestation of pure evil. These dispicable low-lifes will say and do anything to ensure the continuance of their power.
10 posted on 11/20/2014 2:01:39 AM PST by SpaceBar
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Thats stupid beyond belief


11 posted on 11/20/2014 2:05:42 AM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Swordmaker

Well why don’t they put these child killers in prison instead instead of running the them for office?!? Jack@sses...


12 posted on 11/20/2014 2:05:50 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Well why don’t they put these child killers in prison instead instead of running the them for office?!? Jack@sses...

You hadn't noticed the mascot of their party? Here it is. . .


This explains EVERYTHING!

13 posted on 11/20/2014 2:12:29 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Automobile accidents will lead to children dieing as well.So we’re supposed to throw our right to privacy away so the FBI may prevent the death of one child.I don’t think so.


14 posted on 11/20/2014 2:41:28 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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Automobile accidents will lead to children dieing as well.So we’re supposed to throw our right to privacy away so the FBI may prevent the death of one child.I don’t think so.

They will use THAT when they want to install speed governors on all our cars to assure we NEVER go over the posted speed limits in the area we are driving, no matter what reason we have to do so.

15 posted on 11/20/2014 2:54:08 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

You know what they say, live free or die.


16 posted on 11/20/2014 2:58:43 AM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: sauron

It’s pathetic, actually. If I was the Apple CEO, I’d shoot them a letter back saying “The US DOJ certainly doesn’t seem to have a problem with Abortions killing babies.”

I would sign it

F@ck You Very Much,
Apple.


17 posted on 11/20/2014 3:12:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SpaceBar
It would be an easy argument to make that government is actually just a manifestation of pure evil. These dispicable low-lifes will say and do anything to ensure the continuance of their power.

Looking at history, it is obvious that all governments are an anti-social activity. The REAL trick is to hobble that anti-social activity as much as possible and harness it if one can. . . and KEEP it harnessed. Our Founding Fathers did a pretty good job, but did not count on quislings who would actively seek to undermine the structure protecting the freedom of the people, or a people so ignorant of their past they'd willingly give up their freedoms to them. They certainly did not consider the possibility of a usurper in the presidency.

18 posted on 11/20/2014 3:14:29 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Typical, DHS, NSA ect.. spying has caused Apple to encrypt, therefore it’s the Governments fault. It goes on and on.


19 posted on 11/20/2014 3:22:24 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Caipirabob

All murderers, especially mothers who kill their children, should be imprisoned for a very long time, regardless of whether they are running for office or not.

Isn’t it sad we’ve given the “right to murder” to one entity in the world? Mothers, in just 34 years, have murdered 1.35 billion people throughout the world.

Their killing equals 123 Holocausts, of 11 million murdered people each, just since 1980, executed solely by mothers.

The Nazis and even Mao, pale in comparison to the level of evil mothers have wrought.

That is more people killed by mothers, in that very short time frame, than all people killed in all the world’s wars and health epidemics throughout history combined.

The deadliest place in the world, ever - a mother’s womb.

When children are legally murdered, everyone loses. I am quite tired, though, of society giving mothers a pass on their deadly actions. As if, somehow we’re to believe that mothers act responsibly when they murder their own children.

We’re pushed to believe that any irresponsibility associated with the grievous act of mothers killing their child must be due to some outside influence on, and other than, the mother - don’t believe it.

We’re pushed to believe that mothers, solely, are responsible enough to bear the responsibility of the so-called right to kill, but aren’t responsible for the killing we give them alone the right to execute - don’t believe it.

Unless we publicly acknowledge the absolute truth that the right to kill is solely and legally the mother’s responsibility, than mothers will continue to live and listen in denial of that truth and they may never seek forgiveness nor influence other mothers not to kill.

If we don’t acknowledge this truth and seek the justice ardently for everyone, the deadliest place in the world for man ever in the history of the world will continue to be in their own mother’s womb...the exact place we all should be the most protected.


20 posted on 11/20/2014 4:06:14 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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