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To: SunkenCiv
The oft-cited date of the OT Great Flood is 2200 BC. There remains zero evidence that it ever took place.

Are you stark raving mad??? Are you suggesting there is ZERO evidence of massive flooding or huge waves traversing large portions of continents to be found anywhere on the planet??? I know you're a student of Velikovsky and as such you should at least be familiar with his presentation of such evidence. OR, do you choose to cite his work only when it suits your, what, agenda??? I don't get it Civ. I had always thought you to be a fairly bright guy but of late, I've begun to wonder...

48 posted on 11/07/2014 8:31:25 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (What part of "Fundamentally transforming the United States of America" don't the LIV understand?)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Suits agenda? Right back at you.

Putting the Flood in 2200 BC places it 300 years after the Great Pyramid. There’s no Great Flood in the Egyptian literature, and a mighty lot of that literature survives. Their idea of the flood was the annual flooding of the Nile. In proxy, in a dialogue of Plato, we have the Egyptians’ purported explanation for Egypt’s having been spared the various folkloric floods, which nevertheless sound a lot more like tsunamis rather than weeks of rain.

Even a flood of limited duration (the six months between the onset of the Deluge and the running aground on Ararat) would have left huge erosional features (some cite the Grand Canyon; the most recent research left pee in everyone’s punchbowls because it turns out the newest parts are 70 million years old) as the waters left the land.

This doesn’t address the massive problem of where did the water go, but we’re on the dry land, so obviously the water left for the ocean basins. That would have scoured out Grand Canyons throughout the world, and not just at current sealevel, but at the transitional sealevels, iow not just at the coasts. That is literally the opposite of what is seen. The few large erosional canyons that are known resulted from the bursting of ice dams, which released the glacial-era meltwater lakes.

Using Mount Everest as a referent for a worldwide flood, six miles of water had to go somewhere. At the time the tale of the Noachian Flood entered the ancestral folklore, the tallest mountain known was Ararat, but that just reduces the problem in quantity, rather than quality.

Besides those problems, using the literal tale as our guide, there’s the complete lack of food for those animals on the Ark to deal with. From the Exodus account we know that the miraculous appearance of food was remarked on. Nothing like that is found in the account of the Flood. This suggests that the Ark wasn’t packed with 35,000 animals (that’s a recent estimate of how many would fit) but just the relative handful of known species, probably just the domesticated ones. The survival of species from outside the Middle East — which is most species — doesn’t require an Ark thanks to the absence of a worldwide flood 4200 years ago.


49 posted on 11/08/2014 4:14:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: ForGod'sSake
a student of Velikovsky

Kind of like being a student of Edgar Rice Burroughs.

Or Bugs Bunny.

56 posted on 11/08/2014 8:59:12 PM PST by samtheman
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