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Assisted Suicide - Why Oppose It? [Assisted ZOT**Why Oppose it?]

Posted on 11/03/2014 6:36:33 PM PST by Sumner Worden

Hello, everyone. I'm new to Free Republic and I'm looking forward to the discussions.

There has been a good amount of coverage regarding Brittany Maynard's assisted suicide, and even more opinions thrown all over news websites and social media. After reading through a number of responses, I still didn't find the argument for the opposition of assisted suicide very clear. I understand that most Christians would be opposed to the act purely for religious reasons, but do those who oppose assisted suicide have any valid reasons without appealing to religious doctrine?


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To: DJ MacWoW

He may not understand that FR is not run by College kids!


61 posted on 11/03/2014 7:02:03 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: dynachrome; Sumner Worden

Good find.

You know, my first thought was: Is this a student doing a research project or maybe preparing for a debate?


62 posted on 11/03/2014 7:02:04 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: DBrow
When you care enough to send the very best.



Say it with fission.
63 posted on 11/03/2014 7:02:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: DBrow

Excellent Freeping! What a putz.


64 posted on 11/03/2014 7:02:58 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Sumner Worden

Only the terminally ill, but unfortunately there are have been some who simply have given up on life and decided that nothingness is better....that’s wrong.


65 posted on 11/03/2014 7:03:11 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Morgana

That too! LOL


66 posted on 11/03/2014 7:03:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: cripplecreek

The kitties are being kind tonight, giving Sumner a chance.


67 posted on 11/03/2014 7:03:38 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Sumner Worden

The only way to protect all of us from Involuntary Suicide is to prohibit ALL suicide. Just as the only way to protect people from Involuntary Sterilization and Involuntary Abortion is to prohibit ALL sterilization and abortion.

The moment you allow suicide, sterilization, and abortion, you have admitted that sterilization, suicide, and abortion are reasonable choices.

INSTANTLY, the question arises: What can we do about people who REFUSE to do what is clearly REASONABLE?

The answer is ALWAYS: Force them.

People are always eager to categorize objections to an evil social policy as “religious.” That way, they can pretend it isn’t a matter of JUSTICE, but a matter of “can’t eat pork” or “can’t eat meat on Friday.”


68 posted on 11/03/2014 7:04:14 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: dynachrome

“(I stopped paying for hosting so it’s shut down)”

Political Affiliation? Pretty obvious, LOL!


69 posted on 11/03/2014 7:05:02 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: KosmicKitty

LOL


70 posted on 11/03/2014 7:05:10 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: DBrow
"The kitties are being kind...." ______________________________________________________________________________________________ The cat has Sumner's tounge!!!!cat has tongue photo: Cat Got Your Tongue? CatGotYourTongue.jpg
71 posted on 11/03/2014 7:05:41 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Technical Editor; MeshugeMikey; Sumner Worden; Politicalkiddo
Sumner Worden:
I understand that most Christians would be opposed to the act purely for religious reasons,

Technical Editor:
When you can create life, come back and discuss why religious points of view are irrelevant.

MeshugeMikey:
assisted suicide makes someone a murderer.

Politicalkiddo:
Because it doesn’t exist. It’s murder. If you kill yourself, then it’s suicide. Someone else kills you, it’s murder.

Hm, according to MeshugeMikey if you assist in a suicide it makes you a murderer, and Politicalkiddo correctly and concisely says killing yourself is suicide. So then, let's take a look at Samson who is commended as a Hero in the book of Hebrews:

(Judges 16:23-31)
Now the lords of the Philistines gathered to offer a great sacrifice to their god Dagon, and to rejoice; for they said, “Our god has given Samson our enemy into our hand.” When the people saw him, they praised their god; for they said, “Our god has given our enemy into our hand, the ravager of our country, who has killed many of us.” And when their hearts were merry, they said, “Call Samson, and let him entertain us.” So they called Samson out of the prison, and he performed for them. They made him stand between the pillars; and Samson said to the attendant who held him by the hand, “Let me feel the pillars on which the house rests, so that I may lean against them.” Now the house was full of men and women; all the lords of the Philistines were there, and on the roof there were about three thousand men and women, who looked on while Samson performed.

Then Samson called to the Lord and said, “Lord God, remember me and strengthen me only this once, O God, so that with this one act of revenge I may pay back the Philistines for my two eyes.” And Samson grasped the two middle pillars on which the house rested, and he leaned his weight against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other. Then Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines.” He strained with all his might; and the house fell on the lords and all the people who were in it. So those he killed at his death were more than those he had killed during his life. Then his brothers and all his family came down and took him and brought him up and buried him between Zorah and Eshtaol in the tomb of his father Manoah. He had judged Israel twenty years.
Now we obviously see that Samson's act of revenge was also a suicide, moreover we see God honoring his request for strength and thereby assisting in the suicide.
If suicide is a sin, why would God honor Samson's request?
Moreover, if assisting is murder then doesn't this make God a murderer? — But we know that God is not a murderer, and we know that his Holy nature would not allow Him to assist in sin, right?

So, obviously there's more to it than the simple definitions and assertions indicate.

72 posted on 11/03/2014 7:05:42 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sumner Worden

IB4TZ. Bye!


73 posted on 11/03/2014 7:05:48 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

After what my four kids put me thru as they were growing up, I hope to be a burden to them for many years to come!!


74 posted on 11/03/2014 7:06:50 PM PST by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: dynachrome

“At the time I knew almost nothing about politics so it was more of a learning experience than anything else. I would write posts and to my surprise people would actually write comments on them!”

Bwaaa-Haaa-Haaa. Oh, this is too much fun. :)


75 posted on 11/03/2014 7:06:51 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Morgana

There is also a reply-delay imposed for several days when you first join, but I would think even with that we’d see a reply by now.


76 posted on 11/03/2014 7:07:07 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Remember when homosexuals said they only wanted to be accepted?

No.
I have to disagree unconditionally on that one.
I was present and adult enough to see the entire picture. The accurate statement?

Remember when homosexuals said they only wanted to be accepted [a little 'tolerance?']

Plus, I would add...
Remember when the federal nanny state assured us that wearing seat belts would be forever a personal choice?

77 posted on 11/03/2014 7:08:08 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

About a 5 minute delay I think.

This dude just posted then was off.


78 posted on 11/03/2014 7:08:53 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Sumner Worden

Welcome to Free Republic.

And bye.

IBTZ!


79 posted on 11/03/2014 7:09:40 PM PST by piytar (So....you are saying that Hilllary (and Obola) do not know what the meaning of the word "IS" IS?)
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To: Arthur McGowan
People are always eager to categorize objections to an evil social policy as “religious.”

Right you are FRiend, the left has been attempting this for years.

"The "religious right" wants to control you, vote democrat". Pretty much proves your point.

80 posted on 11/03/2014 7:09:56 PM PST by PROCON (Ask Yourself This..Are You More Likely to be Infected or Beheaded Today Than You Were 6 Years Ago?)
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