Posted on 10/24/2014 8:03:16 PM PDT by Kartographer
I tried to persuade you to prepare for what’s coming and, in the process, revealed that to you that I’m preparing. You realized that I have food, guns, etc., and ended up saying, half kidding but half serious, “I’ll come to your place when SHTF.”
No you won’t. I will shoot you. If you threaten me and my family, I will use force to defend against any threat. And showing up at my place hungry and unprepared is a threat to me. You will eat my food and use up my medical supplies, generator, firewood, etc. That’s less of these life-saving things for me and my family. That’s a threat.
Is this greed on my part? No. I will take care of the truly needy – those who cannot take care of themselves. But you are different. Very different. You had plenty of chances to prepare for yourself.
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It would t be just friends or neighbors. It will be police, national guard, and other govt people looking for hoarders.
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“So, my grasshopper friend (as in the story of the grasshopper and the ant), here is your official warning: if your “plan” for your and your family’s safety is to come to my place, you’re wrong. When you show up, I’ll ask you to leave. When you don’t, I’ll point a gun in your face. If you refuse to leave, I will shoot you. You are a threat to me.”
I just finished “Lone Survivor” by Marcus Luttrell & Patricia Robinson. I think of the miseries and agonies two bullets would have saved.
The stockpiled arms and ammo will be the central authority's way of taking power when the starvation, disease and chaos have 'pacified' the rabble. Survivors will be herded and their supplies assimilated for the dwindled masses then complying with the central authority's commands.
I can’t even begin to thank you for all the pings to articles like this. We’re still in early stages of prepping but are making great strides! For those that are in denial and think this is a waste of time, I can assure you that it will come in handy one day.
We have all kinds of ideas for what/how to store water. Unfortunately, we haven’t actually put anything in place since we moved three months ago. Last week, I tried to wash out a cereal bowl and no water came out of the faucet. I instantly went into survival mode! We had a total of two flushes for the house and only about 10 water bottles for six kids and one adult. And the three year old instantly ran in and flushed one of the toilets as soon as she heard me discussing this with the big kids. :0)
Turns out there was a water main break right in front of the house. It only took them four hours to fix it but it was a very rude awakening for me! We were NOT prepared for this! My husband was out of town so he couldn’t help. I decided I wasn’t going to be stuck like this again and thankfully, this happened during beautiful weather instead of an ice storm or something. We ran to the store and bought tons of water bottles, gallon jugs of water and the bigger ones with the spout. We used one of those for the kitchen sink to wash hands and put a couple of jugs in each bathroom, just in case. This isn’t ideal but worked in a pinch.
We’re still not fully prepared but we can definitely survive a minor inconvenience next time. Now to move a littler faster on the rain barrels/water storage tanks.
Thank you all so much! You have truly helped this naive former city, newly country girl get her stuff in order!
I wouldn’t HESITATE to even turn away my own relatives, so turning away other people won’t be a problem for me at all, generally speaking of course.
As you said, it will really depend on the nature of the event. The circumstances in which they are coming to me looking for help will matter a lot too. If it’s someone that scoffed at the idea of preparing for a bad event, buying video games/booze instead, and or did me wrong during the ‘real world’; those kinds of people won’t have a chance in hell of me helping them.
On the other hand, if someone shows up at my door, I knew them to be a person of good character, and they found themselves in a bad situation through no fault of their own, I’d be more open to the idea of helping them out.
“I hope that you have a large generator and a very large store of gasoline. “
I have a whole house generator that runs off my own natural gas.
Too old to run and too stubborn to give in.
And the dogs would like extra treats.
And, since they're not hybrids, the seeds will grow true if you plant what you have left in the spring.
Aside from the library, download Amazon.com’s free Kindle to your PC and scroll through their $0.00 prep and life skills books.
As others have said, cut back on or cut out eating out and all the other frivolous wants. Stick to needs. Cut out all the little trips to the grocery as those add up and you end up wasting money on junk. Try to cut down grocery trips to once or twice a month with just the bare basics. That saved gas $ goes into the food budget. Every gallon of gas used would have been 6-7 cans of 50c veggies. Instead of buying one food sale item, buy as many as your budget allows.
Keep your eye out for yard sales and thrift stores. I wouldn’t make a special trip for those but if you’re passing one, stop in. On the flip side, you probably have a ton of preps at home if you just thought about it. Do a good house cleaning and decluttering but think about how items could be used in prepping before discarding them. Have a yard sale with what you really can’t use and put the proceeds into your prep budget.
Yes, those eye rolls. Zombies would be camped out on our adult kids’ couches before they’d even consider moving in with stooopid and totally uncool mom and dad but they’d be hard pressed for a better bug out place. I put detailed paper maps in their cars for when their iphones aren’t working. Check your local tourist centers for free maps. Many will have maps showing back roads which will come in handy when highways are clogged. Pick up areas outside the direct route home because they may have to make wide detours. Not that they’ll listen, but ask if they’d try making a run using only side streets to get out of the city.
areas.
Agree 100%.
That's very Darwinian of you
Only the one's I invite.
And yes there are some that have an open invitation to come and live with us. That number might grow in the future.
Not all of them are family either.
They might for some reason or another be unable to prep properly or they might have a skill set that I do not have. These are people whom I know that will work hard and be a help.
Warm bodies, if willing to contribute will be a major asset. I plan for adding at least a dozen additional adults to my group if necessary. More is possible as I continue to plan.
You will eat my food and use up my medical supplies, generator, firewood, etc.
Food is something you need to guard and grow. More people means more help to do these things. Medical supplies, you should already have laid enough of the stuff you believe will be scarce and you have more hands for tending medical needs. As for firewood, a room with ten people in it needs less firewood then a room with two. A generator does not care if there are two people in the room or 100. It will put out the same amount of energy.
Now lazy people or people unwilling to work are another story.
Those who do not work will not eat as Paul put it.
For the most part you should plan to take people in if they will be useful. And I am not just talking about young women willing to pull a plow either. :)
I have read it, great book!
Kart, I see some of this attitude everyday. In my line of work I keep a large arsrnal of tools in my box (machinist) . There are certain types of co-worker that deride you for being a pack-rat, but where do they show up when they need a tool? Also acquaintances laugh when they see me with my multiple pocket tools, knives, marlin spike etc. then they need something cut, opened, tightened, rigged, etc. And hey “where’s Budge? You gotta knife?”. I have no illusions as to what will happen in a truly SHTF moment.
Nah. All that stuff you collect is just a cache for someone who can take it from you. It’s just like all that stuff the Japs collected in the caves in the islands during WW2.
And the US Marines took it all.
So you can forget that “I’ll make my friends dig latrines” crap.
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