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What do you think will be the grand jury verdict concerning Officer Darren Wilson?
10/21/2014 | Laissez-faire Capitalist

Posted on 10/21/2014 11:46:32 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

I believe a decision from the grand jury is just around the corner. With this in mind...

Do you think that Officer Darren Wilson will face charges - or not?

Do you think the grand jury should give equal weight to both sides (eyewitness Officer Darren Wilson and the 5 other eyewitnesses)? Are civilan eyewitness accounts (be it one person or more) ever equal to that of a police officer? If so, in which cases?

If the 5 eyewitnesses don't agree on all things, should the grand jury take into account everything the 5 eyewitnesses do agree upon?

Does the witness of 5 outweigh the witness of 1, or is an Appeal to Numbers automatically fallacious? In that case, if more than 1 eyewitness acount cannot be relied on, how then can just 1 eyewitness account (Officer darren Wuilson) be relied upon?


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KEYWORDS: bobmcculloch; brown; darrenwilson; ferguson; mcculloch; michaelbrown; missouri; robertmcculloch; wilson
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To: TexasCajun

Yup. They simply tried to let time difuse the black rage. Silly Rabbit, Time is what feeds it. Because then The JustUs Brother types have a platform to rile the natives.


21 posted on 10/21/2014 11:56:16 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: ladyjane

In a sane world, no charges, and rioters kiss concrete.


22 posted on 10/21/2014 11:56:19 AM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: WayneS
RE: more violence

I hear others suggest that the violence benefits the Democrats' "get out the black vote" efforts.

The Democrats using their patented 1960s race riots, death, and destruction for political gain is still key to their political success.

Back in 2000 they were just barely prevented from doing it.

See this FR thread. The NR source I used to cite is 404ed.

the quote is by Karenna Gore and it's about the 2000 post-election day dispute. It sure seemed to me that the Dems were ready to spark race riots -- which IMO the MSM employees would have used to demand that Bush concede and bow to the "will of the people" (a phrase often included in MSM reports on the election dispute).

"He [Al Gore] said, 'We have to do what's best for the country, and it is not good for the country to have this kind of divisiveness.' And he was on the phone, really calling off the dogs. There were people who wanted to fan the … the flames of the racial issue and have real unrest. And he was on the phone asking them not to, because of what was best for the country not because of what was best for him politically. And that's really who he is."

23 posted on 10/21/2014 11:56:52 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: grania

Absolutely. And the PDs in every other American city should do the same until the situation self corrects.


24 posted on 10/21/2014 11:57:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Wilson will get a medal and run for Governor.


25 posted on 10/21/2014 11:58:52 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

No charges


26 posted on 10/21/2014 11:59:16 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think he will walk as he should, I also think they will release the grand jury results right before Nov4th to make sure the base is pissed and votes.


27 posted on 10/21/2014 11:59:23 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Not guilty

Anything else is just a "Well...let's just make him go to trial and let them figure it out"

Either call will produce a riot...cuz that's what the "I hate whitey" aka "Black Coalition" folks do in that town.

28 posted on 10/21/2014 11:59:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Depends on whether those “eyewitness” testimonies line up with forensics. If entry holes are blatantly inconsistent with claimed positioning (say, forearm entry holes would require arms be down instead of “surrendering”), then those testimonies can be discarded outright.

Remember, early on the “eyewitnesses” claimed he was shot in the back...


29 posted on 10/21/2014 12:00:27 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: ealgeone

I agree with you. Don’t think they can get an indictment let alone a conviction.


30 posted on 10/21/2014 12:01:01 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Norm Lenhart

Obama to the United Nations, “Never Mind!”


31 posted on 10/21/2014 12:01:11 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The jury will be presented with medical reports illustrating the damage done to the officer’s face, and will conclude that the (drug affected) 300 lb ‘youth’ had indeed provoked a fight requiring the use of deadly force.


32 posted on 10/21/2014 12:01:36 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Crazieman
Yes!
33 posted on 10/21/2014 12:03:20 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: grania
If Darren Wilson is charged with anything, the police officers should walk. Let the fine residents of Ferguson police themselves. JMHO

They should walk anyway. Let Ferguson become Detroit. What Ferguson needs in order to survive has already left anyway.

34 posted on 10/21/2014 12:06:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The issue here is that the prosecutor could get an indictment, but probably doesn't think there's enough for a conviction.

Maybe they think it would be easier to deal with the protesters after a No Bill than to let this thing drag out even longer with a trial that would end in an acquittal.

From the few reports coming out of the Grand Jury, the prosecutor has been presenting witnesses that would exonerate Wilson; not usually the approach a prosecutor takes.

It seems like an indictment gives the prosecutor some leverage in getting a plea bargain, but I doubt Wilson would make any deal. He has to know, as does his lawyer, that a conviction with what little evidence they have is almost impossible.

So, I think they're mostly trying to avoid a trial and acquittal. No easy way out for the county prosecutor, but I think they're looking for the quickest way out.

35 posted on 10/21/2014 12:06:53 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The prosecutor in Missouri must convince the grand jury that there is “probable cause” that a CRIME was committed, and “probable cause” that the defendant committed it.

If the shot(s) that killed the so called gentle giant were in the back, the officer has a problem just like average Joe Citizen would.


36 posted on 10/21/2014 12:10:03 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: ealgeone

The gentle giants prior record should be considered immaterial in this case, per the usual Modus Operandi in these situations.

Secondly, while the 5 eyewitnesse don’t agree on everything, I wonder if what they do agree upon (4 of the 5 say Brown ran, turned, put up his hands, and did not rush Officer Darren Wilson) will be ocnsidered as equal to what Wilson said.


37 posted on 10/21/2014 12:10:53 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Mr. K

I hope neither side in this riots...


38 posted on 10/21/2014 12:11:31 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think it will depend on what the evidence shows.


39 posted on 10/21/2014 12:11:49 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Theodore R.

Who knows what to believe in this....


40 posted on 10/21/2014 12:12:12 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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