Anyone else seen Fury?

[31R1O]

Has anyone else seen Fury? I just got back and it wasn't a bad movie at all. The character building scenes are a bit clumsy at times but the combat bits were top notch. It wasn't Blackhawk Down or Saving Private Ryan intense but there were tense moments. I recommend it.

[C. Edmund Wright]

yeah, I get it...amazing what you can find from old movies sometimes, but not always what you want.

do you know, am I right - was that from the “God help me I do love it so” scene?

[TalonDJ]

In point of fact, Patton saw tanks as serving a role of escorting troops

Patently false. Patton was one of the only US generals that saw a DIFFERENT role for them.

[Vermont Lt]

Except Brad Pitt is very pro gun.

[Bobalu]

I think he uttered those words at the site of the ruins where he said he was there in the past when it was an ancient battlefield.

[Vermont Lt]

How old are you people?

What was the last movie you saw?

Can you drive at night?

[TalonDJ]

You are uninformed on the capabilities of the late model Shermans. With APCR rounds, at medium and close ranges, they were quite capable of ruining a Tiger’s day.

The resident tank expert at WarGaming wrote up a nice piece on this.

http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/pc-browser/21/TCH_Fury_Sherman_Tiger/

The tales of the Sherman being a death trap are highly overblow and largely stem from a single post-war book. It was no juggernaut but it was hardly a tincan.

[C. Edmund Wright]

yes, shortly after the “I can smell a battlefield” and “I know, I was there” scenes. I thought this was that scene.

[itsahoot]

Van Johnson had just started a 7-year contract with MGM in 1942 when he was in a major road accident which left him with a metal plate in his head. Ineligible to serve during WWII, he became America’s war film hero, playing the amiable guy next door sent overseas to do his part for America. J

[mj1234]

thanks for the link

[Fightin Whitey]

I have books to read.

Words from the wise.

[Gaffer]

Frankly, I looked at your citation and read it. So what I’m supposed to believe is that this expert is completely right and every other account I’ve seen and heard (in one show from actual tank crews) is wrong.

[Molon Labbie]

Yep saw that too.

[Sans-Culotte]

That’s the single biggest credibility problem in Hollyweird today. 50 years ago when they were doing WW2 films, many of the actors in them actually HAD been in the war or in military service (look at “Hogan’s Heroes” for that matter, where the actor Robert Clary, who played Cpl. Lebeau, had been in a real Nazi Concentration Camp for 3 years !).

These pampered douchebags today have never known much of a greater horror than having their wrong-flavored Dasani water in their dressing room.

I'm not bothered by whether actors have been in a real war. I just think the acting profession is so dominated these days by homosexuals and metrosexuals that there are few actors anymore who can convincingly play macho manly types. There are no stars anymore with the masculine and heroic qualities of John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Charlton Heston, Robert Mitchum, Burt Lancaster, et al.

[SaraJohnson]

Did you see the movie? What did you think of it?

[GOPJ]

Jimmy Stewart was a MAN - compare his war record to John Wayne's for example. Like you said, Stewart actively sought combat duty and flew in some of the hairiest bombing raids of WWII - I'm almost positive he was on the schweinfurt raid. He was the first major star to put on the uniform in WWII when he enlisted and he continued to fly as a reservist long after WWII. He even flew on a B-52 mission in Vietnam. He ended his military service as a brigadier general.

I remember living in a great country...

[Hebrews 11:6]

The tales of the Sherman being a death trap are highly overblown

Recently, I saw the final statistics on death-rates to Sherman crews per destroyed tank (it was linked to on Freeper Homer_J_Simpson's excellent daily WW2 series five or six weeks ago). They were 0.3 men per event, which is much lower than we've been led to expect. When a Sherman got badly hit, most got out alive.

[Vermont Lt]

Going tonight. I will post my thoughts. It looks like a decent two hour mind vacation.

[ansel12]

People knew about Rock Hudson all along, IF they wanted to know, I first learned it as a little boy in 1961.

[SaraJohnson]

...mind vacation.

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Good description of movie watching. I am very picky about who takes my mind on vacation and where they are taking me.

[Mears]

“People knew about Rock Hudson all along, “

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You are correct-—rumors were flying for years.

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