Posted on 09/27/2014 6:57:51 PM PDT by B4Ranch
A group of ultra-Orthodox passengers heading to Israel to celebrate the Jewish new year delayed an El Al flight out of JFK Airport, kvetching that they couldn’t sit next to women because of religious reasons.(snip)
The Haredi travelers wouldn’t sit unless they could trade their seats with other passengers, rankling the secular Jews on board the Tuesday night flight, according to Shalom Life.
“I ended up sitting next to a … man who jumped out of his seat the moment we had finished taking off and proceeded to stand in the aisle.”
Other passengers recalled that the black-clad rabblerousers stood in the aisle, praying loudly and causing a scene — and making it impossible for others to go to the bathroom.
The Islamist will make their demands and we will fall all over ourselves to comply.
At any rate there are biblical rules for Jews about seats in which women during their period have sat, making it an additional interesting topic.
_____________________________________________________
...Only for certain materials (of the seat...) Wood, metals names in the Torah that can be made spiritually impure.
This was purely a hyper-sensitive rendering of a rabbinical law against mixing sexes. Clearly they had no right to expect the airline to meet their self-imposed demands. Don’t let the door hit you in the tuchas on the way our gentlemen....
“on the way out” Damn, ruined my funny yiddish adaptation of colloquial Americana...
The bible speaks of certain items and certain scenarios and, you are correct, does not include every possible thing that could serve as a seat.
This was a problem with the Pharisees. Biblical rules got expanded to extents God never asked for, and it sometimes became an ugly game of holier than thou.
Meh, don’t forget we Jews (I’m forgoing sub-labels and categories...c’mon, we coronated G-d King yesterday...) believe G-d gave them (the Pharisees, you see) to do so.
In this case, it’s as if the gentlemen walked into a store with a woman singing on the PA (it’s prohibited, also by our holy and sainted rabbis— no sarc— to listen to a woman sing)...as if they walked in and screamed and ran out. These laws are applied in practical manners— we fly, we presume we may sit next to a woman.
I’m not denying there is holier-than-thou. Or even “Holier than G-d” if we really want to (foolishly, improperly) make fun of someone’s piety it performance of the commandments. But this article is not a case of that. Just plain morons.
The Observant Jew population is exploding. Pretty soon, homosexuals won’t be welcome in Israel anymore.
Yup. While benign by comparison this orthodoxy is not all that different than some of the islamists
They do not demand tolerance. They demand acquiescence.
Perhaps...but “demanding” ....all are today nonetheless.
Agreed
Go Observant Jews go! Abolish the homosexual agenda! Crush islam! Restore Biblical principles!
Fine, let them ride on the wings.
Bunch of neurotics.
When Mohammed dreamed up his syncretist religion, he took bits of the other religions circulating in the ME at the time. Among other things, he took the oral law from the Jews (the interpretation of the Torah, which would eventually become the basis for the extremely detailed written Talmud regulating Jewish practice and law, both ritual and other). Strangely, he seems to have taken the interpretations without taking the most important part of their foundation (particularly the Ten Commandments). I suppose this was because he had his own “revelation” for the founding of his religion. But the very detailed, harsh and restrictive Jewish laws were useful to him in imposing a control system that would extend his conquests, and everybody in the ME was already familiar with them.
Remember, these were the laws that Jesus preached and acted against. The Jews of his time were shocked to see him talking with women, for example, because the concept of “unclean” was so deeply rooted among them.
Orthodox Jews follow the law but understand it and its reasons; the Ultra-Orthodox Haredi, on the other hand, are like the earlier Pharisees or other rigorist groups, and are irrational and consumed with their ritual practices and law. They’re a real problem in Israel, in fact, because they refuse to serve in the army, are usually living on welfare with their enormous families, and occasionally riot against the other Israelis.
That’s an interesting additional complication, about ritual cleanliness.
Only young boys
Translation: I saw their lips moving and could make out some sounds, but not actual words - VERY LOUD praying was going on. I also had to say, "excuse me" once to get around one of these loud-prayers in order to get to the bathroom to check my mascara - it was just an IMPOSSIBLE situation. These people need to be rounded up and put in concentration camps - Hitler had the right idea after all.
Then buy the seat next to you.
Otherwise STFU and STFD.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.