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Cruising at 37,000 feet-is this TOO CLOSE?
9/20/2014 | Myself

Posted on 09/20/2014 3:25:22 PM PDT by rlmorel

Cruising at 37,00 feet eastbound, surfing the Internet, I paused for a second and looked out the window and saw another airliner flash by going 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

I readily admit I am no good at estimating relative distance in the air, I have never seen another plane pass this close...ever.

I could have read the tail number, it was that close, but I was so startled I didn't even register the kind of plane it was, though it was white with an engine under each wing.

Here is where it happened, at 1750 EST:



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I gasped and my heart jumped. I looked around and back, nobody seemed to have even noticed. My wife and the guy in the seat next to her looked at me like I was crazy!

The only time I have seen an airplane that close while in an airliner was as I came in to land and passed over or by it as it was taxiing off to the side. I could clearly make out each window, and if I had not been so startled, I think I could have actually seen people inside if I had tried.

And the fact that we were going 180 degrees in the opposite direction with a likely closing speed of nearly 1200 mph, makes it even more disconcerting.

We had just entered turbulence, and everyone had to return to their seats and buckle in, so I wonder if planes were being re-routed to avoid the turbulence, and perhaps they knew exactly what they were doing, but...I simply cannot imagine two airliners head on sharing that same space at that altitude going head on to each other.

Are there any Freeper airline pilots out there who can shed any light on this?

1 posted on 09/20/2014 3:25:22 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: rlmorel
Did you see this on the wing?


2 posted on 09/20/2014 3:28:07 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: rlmorel

Did you crash?

Then no problem.


3 posted on 09/20/2014 3:28:48 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Oh, good God.

Funny, but no. It was a few hundred yards (maybe 200-300) off our port side and several hundred feet below us.


5 posted on 09/20/2014 3:29:30 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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I gasped and my heart jumped. I looked around and back, nobody seemed to have even noticed. My wife and the guy in the seat next to her looked at me like I was crazy!

Whoa! Bro, what an opening paragraph to a potential book...........

My heart flutters with the excitement you have just instilled.....

6 posted on 09/20/2014 3:31:43 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz bro......)
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To: rlmorel

the file you meant to display in your message... cant be found according to Dropboz


7 posted on 09/20/2014 3:31:48 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Please RESIGN Mr. President Its the RIGHT thing to do_RETIRE THE REGIME!)
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks for the explanation. From your handle, you probably understand way better than me how fast things happen head on at that closing speed, and if it isn’t a big deal, then...well...I guess it ain’t.

But I had never seen that with my own eyes before.


8 posted on 09/20/2014 3:32:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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I've seen this.

Airliners fly in 'routes', and different directions are separated, if memory serves me correctly, by 1000 feet.

Look straight down on your next flight, and don't blink much.
9 posted on 09/20/2014 3:32:38 PM PDT by Nepeta
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sorry Its displaying now....

it didnt immediately display so i asked my browser to open the file in another window. that is when the error message appeared


10 posted on 09/20/2014 3:32:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Please RESIGN Mr. President Its the RIGHT thing to do_RETIRE THE REGIME!)
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11 posted on 09/20/2014 3:35:29 PM PDT by Dallas59
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LOL...DropBox is having trouble synching...it reminds me of that comedy routine someone did one time about griping about slow Internet service while flying in a pressurized tube at 37,000 feet at 550 mph...


12 posted on 09/20/2014 3:36:05 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: rlmorel

It USED TO BE, that if any approaching aircraft was larger than your thumbnail, it was too stinking close.

Nowadays, with all the stories that we, the public, are ‘allowed’ to know about, I have no idea.

I just hope that you did NOT need a laundry change, once you landed!


13 posted on 09/20/2014 3:37:14 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Dallas59

Okay, THAT’S funny...


14 posted on 09/20/2014 3:37:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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I refreshed and got this, which explains everything:


15 posted on 09/20/2014 3:37:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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It was a few hundred yards (maybe 200-300) off our port side and several hundred feet below us.

Distances are difficult to judge in the air. 300 yards is nearly the 1000' vertical separation, so you're pretty good at this.

16 posted on 09/20/2014 3:38:01 PM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: rlmorel

The other aircraft should have been 2000 feet above or below your aircraft.

(IIRC - it's been 32years since I was Pilot-In-Command (PIC) and never at 37,000 feet, Flight Level (FL) 370)

17 posted on 09/20/2014 3:38:19 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Gang Green and the Government Staff Infection " - Glen Morgan, Freedom Foundation.)
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To: freedumb2003

Danger Danger,,, Pilot Out Of Control!!


18 posted on 09/20/2014 3:38:33 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Please RESIGN Mr. President Its the RIGHT thing to do_RETIRE THE REGIME!)
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To: rlmorel

He was at 35,000. This author is one big drama queen!


19 posted on 09/20/2014 3:38:38 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: rlmorel
RELAX...we have everything under control
20 posted on 09/20/2014 3:39:30 PM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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