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ISIS claims to behead second American: Is it me, or does this background look superimposed?
CNN ^

Posted on 09/02/2014 12:16:45 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

No text, just video at the link.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: beheading; iraq; isis; isisatrocities; journalistbeheaded; sotloff; sotloffvideo
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To: rfreedom4u

We don’t know how may other times they did this with him and then simply take him back to be locked up. He probably didn’t know this was the final video.


41 posted on 09/02/2014 1:48:59 PM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: jocon307

“Propanda”

By Edward Bernays

“If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it.”

Page 71 (1928 edition?)


42 posted on 09/02/2014 1:57:48 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: MagUSNRET

I’m not seeing any videos; only stills of it. Googling around to see some video...


43 posted on 09/02/2014 2:00:54 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

looks like maybe it was filmed by the same crew that put together Obama’s birth certificate.


44 posted on 09/02/2014 2:01:53 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Enlightened1

“I don’t know if they are really dead or not?”

Oh I’m sorry, but I’m still confused. I can’t tell if you meant to end that sentence with a question mark or not, or if I should think it was sarcastic or not.

I’m just trying to understand what part of the video you think is fake, all of it, and nobody got their head chopped off, or just the background/location and they DID get their heads chopped off.


45 posted on 09/02/2014 2:02:06 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Fred Hayek

Why travel long distances to even the score when Dearborn, MI is so much closer?


46 posted on 09/02/2014 2:03:30 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: MagUSNRET

Okay, found a video. Heck, I can’t tell much except it was filmed with multiple cameras and heavily-edited, but all video stopped before the murder. I can’t tell much more from it, from what little I saw.


47 posted on 09/02/2014 2:08:09 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Why would ISIS fake it?


48 posted on 09/02/2014 2:11:09 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: lacrew

Yep. Beheading is pretty fast compared to drawn out torture.


49 posted on 09/02/2014 2:25:44 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: jocon307

The part that is fake is... I’ll repost it for you since you forgot.

“If you look at the “LEFT SIDE” of both figures (the side shot and not the front shot). See that nearly perfect straight line on both figures. That’s usually an indication of a blue screen.

For doubters..... Here is how you can compare it. Look at weather men and women that we all know stand in front of a blue screen. You will see the same almost “straight line” from the side angle.

Now just look at any live video, like a sports game, then you will NOT see that same nearly perfect “straight line”.”

This is also the second beheading video with the exact same British executioner (all previous beheading videos did not have a British spokesman), who admits in the video its the same guy, that is considered staged according to experts.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardner/11054488/Foley-murder-video-may-have-been-staged.html

So it begs the question... Why fake a beheading if you are really going to do it anyway???

Both videos do not show the actual execution only the beginning and very end.

I think the public is being propagandized for a war in Syria. After all that is the war that the Administration and McCain have been wanting to start.

I did not give you the full quotes from Edward Bernays in the previous post. He is the father of modern advertising.

It’s called the Engineering of Consent from his book “Propaganda”.

“If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it.”

and

“Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”


50 posted on 09/02/2014 2:26:05 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: rfreedom4u; kjam22; lacrew; TangledUpInBlue; VeniVidiVici; LambSlave

I might’ve mixed up stories... It was for stoning that they drug the victim.

(I’m just trying to figure out why the victims aren’t fighting back myself.)

For beheadings, maybe the victims are drugged, or maybe the terrorists tell them that the beheading will be fake.


51 posted on 09/02/2014 2:26:07 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I don’t know. Ask Cokie Roberts.


52 posted on 09/02/2014 2:31:49 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Catherine Herridge of FoxNews watched the full actual video earlier.

She said the video appeared to be more professionally created than the previous one. She also said it appeared to have voice distortion and side (rather than frontal) video shots. She said these seemed intentional to keep the identity of the perp and location from being readily identified.


53 posted on 09/02/2014 2:36:13 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Also, I don’t think I’ve ever seen an HD jihadi video. This one and the previous beheading are maybe a first. Yes, the “clean” lines around his black outfit and the lack of shadows look very suspicious. And yes, the background does not look live.


54 posted on 09/02/2014 2:38:45 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Tired of Taxes

the terrorists tell them that the beheading will be fake

I don’t think I’d be too trusting of barbicans that have kidnapped me.


55 posted on 09/02/2014 2:56:16 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
How much more unspeakable pain and torture can there be when getting your head sawed off?

That's pretty bad. But there's a lot of ways to die that are probably at least as agonizing.

Burning alive.

Gut shot and left to die for three days.

Slow slicing, the Chinese method of execution for a thousand years.

Google "the boats," the ancient Persian method. I'm not going to describe it.

Thrown to the lions.

Impalement.

Crucifixion.

For thousands of years people actually competed to find methods of execution that were the most torturous and humiliating.

56 posted on 09/02/2014 3:04:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: TomGuy

I never saw the full video of the last two

I have been watching all the ones I know of online, we need to, this is reality, and it is coming here

That being said, the last two, Foley and Sotloff, both versions I saw, never showed his head being taken off

Who has actually seen their heads being taken off??

is this a huge black flag?

Why arent we rioting over a youtube video?


57 posted on 09/02/2014 3:05:21 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RaceBannon

“That being said, the last two, Foley and Sotloff, both versions I saw, never showed his head being taken off”


I hope you are right. I haven’t looked at any of the videos.

What if this is a big hoax.

.


58 posted on 09/02/2014 3:08:30 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Enlightened1

“Both videos do not show the actual execution only the beginning and very end.”

Yes, I think I sort of knew that, even though I haven’t (and won’t) watch them.

But, I did see a picture of the first guy, dead, with his head placed on his corpse, but believe me I didn’t look too long or hard at it. It was posted here and it might even have been fuzzed out a little.

But you know, you are still not telling me straight out, do you think these guys are dead or not? I’d like to get beyond that point before discussing who it is you think is propagandizing for a war in Syria.


59 posted on 09/02/2014 3:37:55 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Besides the missing shadows?


60 posted on 09/02/2014 3:58:22 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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