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Man is guilty of murder after his dogs (pit bulls) kill woman
AP ^ | August 29, 2014

Posted on 08/31/2014 5:57:16 PM PDT by xzins

Edited on 08/31/2014 6:26:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A jury on Friday found a man guilty of murder after his pit bulls mauled a woman to death in a high desert town in California where residents said they carried rocks and guns for protection against packs of dogs.


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TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; doggieping; murder; pitbull; pitbulls; pitbullskillwoman
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To: 9YearLurker

Sure the owner is likely guilty of murder. But can’t he claim diminished capacity? After all he is a Pit Bull owner.


101 posted on 09/01/2014 1:13:10 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Salamander

Perhaps the pressers need a dog breed primer, and a bingo card for which breed to hate today.

” Fashion and idiot judges gave us the over-done “egg shaped” head we see, now.”

Oh great, now I have “egghead dog” stuck in my mind.
And it will pop to mind next time I see the neighbors mobile water spigot.
(Seems to suffer a slobber condition, the dog drools as if a faucet blew out.)


102 posted on 09/01/2014 1:19:24 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: kanawa
"I’d suggest you concentrate less on your gonads and show greater concern with your narrow minded analysis and your lack of integrity." I would suggest if you can play in the big leagues you step right up and if not you retire to the sidelines with the rest of the bench sitters.

Are you going to man up and have this discussion or wimp out?? You always end up doing the liberal thing and just calling people names when you can not support your arguments with provable facts and factual truth.

Typical of one who opines on unsupported passion and not rational thought and facts.

103 posted on 09/01/2014 1:59:04 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Retired military dog handler)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
"he deliberately set out to use his dogs to kill someone"" He deliberately owned animals who are well known for attacking people and other Animals.

He was completely negligent in not keep them contained on his property thus allowing them to do what they are well known to do, kill and maim.

If you choose to own dogs that are of a breed known to kill and maim at a rate much higher than any other breed and then negligently allow them to escape confinement and attack innocent people then yes, you should be held accountable exactly as if you had done their deeds with your own hands.

It is clearly his fault in every way. It is his fault, and on one else's, for owning them, not securing them, and therefore allowing them to kill this lady. She would still be alive if not for his bad decisions and negligence.

Every single step in this is exactly his fault.

104 posted on 09/01/2014 2:18:32 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Retired military dog handler)
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To: xzins

I agree.

But it is best to admit it is still criminal!


105 posted on 09/01/2014 2:20:38 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: Darksheare
Rufus, who went BOS at Westminster, one year.

I hardly know where to start.

The head, the body, the gait...this is not what they were supposed to be.

It really does look like an egg.


106 posted on 09/01/2014 2:36:32 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: oldenuff2no; kanawa

Dude killed a freaking bear with a pocketknife.

“Wimp” is a pejorative that should definitely ~never~ be used in his presence.


107 posted on 09/01/2014 2:40:05 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Salamander

“Aww..look at the omelette on legs!”
Yeah, that is..
Mental images here are terrible.


108 posted on 09/01/2014 2:42:10 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: xzins

This is the absolute mildest picture of Pit Bull victim I could.

Most others are horror show material (Or as Pit nuts would call it "erotica")

109 posted on 09/01/2014 2:49:30 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Darksheare

Find him on YouTube and watch him “move”.

Words cannot describe it.


110 posted on 09/01/2014 2:55:55 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Sure seems like you enjoy that “erotica” more than Pit owners, since you spend so much time searching for it.

Tell me, does it annoy you that I don’t even have one?

Did you know that the #1 cause of childhood death is their own *mothers*?


111 posted on 09/01/2014 2:58:52 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Salamander

“Frankensteins monster has better locomotion”?


112 posted on 09/01/2014 3:17:38 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Salamander

Rufus the Therapy Dog....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7byLk3vOFKM


113 posted on 09/01/2014 5:22:30 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It was a GENEROUS SENTENCE considering what the poor victim went through. I would have hanged the bastard and his dam brother.


114 posted on 09/01/2014 5:45:41 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: ZULU

Agree.


115 posted on 09/01/2014 5:46:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: oldenuff2no

No. Manslaughter, yes. Criminal negligence yes. Genuine murder, no.

Dogs are not the same as guns. If one can be negligent with guns, one sure as heck can be with a being that moves on its own and has a mind of its own.


116 posted on 09/01/2014 5:51:22 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Since he was running a pot farm, the odds are he trained the dogs to be mean. And then he didn’t control them.


117 posted on 09/01/2014 5:58:53 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Salamander

Bull Terriers are pit-bull/bull types. However, unlike some breeds, they have had the aggression and untrustworthiness bred out. Regardless of their heads, they are better dogs than their cousins. Same applies to Bulldogs, and Boston (Bull/dog) Terriers. Proof that breeding with a purpose can remove that aggression.


118 posted on 09/01/2014 5:58:55 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: xzins

Yes, but I doubt he deliberately wanted to kill someone, even in the heat of the moment. He was not there, apparently. He is criminally negligent or some such.

Beware of how you wish to punish people. It will turn on you.


119 posted on 09/01/2014 6:00:44 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

If you train an animal to attack, and then it attacks, then you did intend for it to do harm.

I read above the definition of 2nd degree murder, and it specifically uses the word ‘causes’. So, the law is saying that there is something beyond criminal negligence that isn’t you pulling the trigger, but does allow for you to be the ‘cause’.

What you say about criminal negligence I agree with. What the law tries to distinguish is not someone who ignored something they shouldn’t have ignored, but who also established a situation that would have reasonably led to the death of another person.


120 posted on 09/01/2014 6:07:39 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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