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Rush talking about Article V convention of states
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Posted on 08/06/2014 10:14:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: OneWingedShark

Make sure to define the taxing authority narrowly, explicitly stating that it does NOT include a penalty imposed for the failure to purchase any commodity, that no such purported tax shall be enforced, nor shall any law based upon any such purported tax be considered valid in any respect.


101 posted on 08/07/2014 3:06:54 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: plain talk
Impeachment is the remedy.

Impeach, and sue, for now; amend to prevent future usurpations.

102 posted on 08/07/2014 3:11:12 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Congress calls the date and location (such as beginning October 1 in Philadelphia, for example), but they have no other authority over such a convention.


103 posted on 08/07/2014 3:12:48 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP
"Congress calls the date and location "

Yes, I agree. You may have been replying to me in error.

104 posted on 08/07/2014 3:43:54 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: plain talk
"Impeachment is the remedy. "

Impeachment is NOT the remedy if Congress refuses to impeach!

"Real tiring wasting time on this nonsense."

There is a solution for that.

105 posted on 08/07/2014 3:47:33 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: TBP
The first one:
Section 1 doesn’t make sense, and I’d rather just repeal the 16th Amendment. Limiting the percentage is good, but repealing it is better.

One of the reasons that people are complacent is withholdings — look at how people act when they get an income-tax return, not like they're getting back their own money but that they're getting money from the government. (ie they completely fail to realize they've made an interest-free loan to the government.)

Another reason for complacency is that because it's done out-of-sight, it's often out-of-mind — or to rephrase it, how pissed off would people be about government wasting tax-monies if they had to consciously pay the bill?

The reason I hesitate on repealing the 16th is because I no longer think that a sales tax would be good. With the continual miniaturization and pervasive computing it is quickly becoming feasible to have a progressive sales tax system where the rate you're taxed is a function of your income. (I, for one, see that as a fast track to chips embedded in the hand, which would handle the taxation question — DO NOT WANT.)


There's also moral objections to withholdings that should be raised:

And if you're a christian then James 5:4 ought to really make you crap your pants if the first is the case, because it's making virtually every employer guilty in God's sight:
Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts.
106 posted on 08/07/2014 3:59:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Yep. Even calls for impeachment and building momentum for impeachment hearings would be a start so at least there is a vehicle to formally document the crimes. Suing at least it is in the direction of documenting the crimes


107 posted on 08/07/2014 4:13:36 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: OneWingedShark

The sentence doesn’t make sense gramatically. I was an English major. I don’t quite see a complete thought there.


108 posted on 08/07/2014 7:29:54 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP
The sentence doesn’t make sense gramatically. I was an English major. I don’t quite see a complete thought there.

Which sentence?

109 posted on 08/07/2014 10:04:08 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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