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Apollo 11 Astronauts Walked on the Moon 45 years ago Today! (Or Did They?)
July 20 2014 | lee martell

Posted on 07/20/2014 3:40:37 PM PDT by lee martell

I vividly recall being in the living room with my family watching tv in 1969 as the American Astronauts walked on the moon. The pictures were fuzzy, black and white, somewhat indistinct. It almost resembled an Ultrasound image an expectant mother would see. We were thrilled to be part of a country, a culture so advanced as to put men on the moon and later, to bring them back safely to earth. We had completely one-upped communist Russia! Sputnik was a very important step in space exploration. Quite significant back in 1957, but that was a long time ago, back when the United States only had 48 states. As America was bustin it's collective buttons with prideful , joyful celebration, Leonid Brezhnev most likely uncorked and emptied multiple bottles of Vodka on that day, attempting to drown his frustration. I think it was on a Saturday, but I'm not sure.

About 10 years after that, some people began asking questions, filing Freedom Of Information requests, wanting to verify the authenticity of reports that , yes, indeed, the United States really had done what was reported in Life Magazine, in Look, in Time, in Scientific American, Engineering Today, and so on. Yes, of course we put a man on the moon, didn't you hear the reports? You gotta be crazy or some kind of communist to question whether we did it. What do you mean, did we actually go there? Still, to this day, many people question exactly what did happen and where, and to whom did it happen? Does Russia know what really happened, and have they decided also to stay quiet? Was Hollywood stage setting involved to offer a 'simulation' for the public? Why did we never return there, when we have billions for wars and redundant infrastructure to please Labor Unions. Some scientists have said, the human body could never survive the extreme atmospheric pressures and temperature changes that await beyond the stratosphere. This question, like the question of who killed John Kennedy will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction. I still think we should explore attempts to mine minerals such as Helium from beneath the moon's crusty outer surface. We would benefit by learning how to set up enclosed colonies on the moon as well. I am not very certain what the benefits would be of Mars exploration, other than an Engineer's individual triumph.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: apollo; apollo11; moon; moonlandings; nasa; spaceexploration; thread4dummies
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To: cripplecreek

I agree, charlatans like Carl Sagan claimed that Phobos was hollow and therefore artificial, while it is merely low-density, a kind of mineral foam, and in the distant future will cover Mars with a deep crater field caused by the ejecta when Phobos crashes into the Martian surface.


121 posted on 07/21/2014 8:47:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

The striations on the surface do make it and many other asteroids look like they were strip mined. Its a cool thought but the most likely explanation is natural.


122 posted on 07/21/2014 8:52:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s just a sign that rock and roll had reached celestial bodies long before the 1950s. ;’)


123 posted on 07/21/2014 9:19:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lee martell
>"This question, like the question of who killed John Kennedy will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction."

Ballistics prove it was the hungover SS agent falling on his ass in the car behind them that did the third and fatal headshot. One in a billion chance, but the entry hole size and angle proves it wasn't harveys.

124 posted on 07/21/2014 10:53:17 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: lee martell

"That's news to me"

125 posted on 07/21/2014 11:22:46 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

ping to self


126 posted on 07/21/2014 11:31:17 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: John Valentine; Mad Dawgg; All

You obviously missed the HUGE sarcasm tag.

It’s rare that I would support Ansel, but get a grip, folks. He was funnin y’all, and you took the bait like a starving grouper.


127 posted on 07/21/2014 3:21:40 PM PDT by Don W (To laugh, perhaps to dream...)
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To: TalonDJ
It would have been impossible to fake, actually. The footage clearly showed an airless environment with low gravity.

By the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
128 posted on 07/21/2014 3:25:14 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: ansel12; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
If you watch film of Neil Armstrong setting his canteen down, you can see Tang dribbling from the loose cap that he forgot to tighten down, yet if they were actually on the Moon, there is no gravity to make it dribble.

Do you have a video of that? In any case, I would say that is rather weak. Not only would the weak gravity factor in that, but i think liquid will cling to a surface beyond what gravity can account for, plus momentum from placing a canteen down.

And the gov. has been quite unsuccessful in keeping secrets, and i am also sure the Ruskies would have greatly made a fake landing a major issue.

But nothing is impossible with conspiratorialists.

129 posted on 07/22/2014 4:47:58 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
But there is not one single bit of credible OBJECTIVE evidence that the moon landings were real

There were on Lois Learner's HD.

I bet you even think Bigfoot isn't actually a Nazi spy sent from the Arctic and that the X-Files wasn't really a subversive DOCUMENTARY-show produced by the GOOD aliens from planet Zarkon.

But I think you forgot the /sarc tag!

130 posted on 07/22/2014 4:53:37 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: minnesota_bound
If you look close at the photos “taken” on the moon you will see in one of the shots along the horizon, a 65 Rambler where one of the film crew had parked his car. NASA was able to edit most of the photos but missed this one.

So why not post that photo showing it? Or is " you will see" in the eyes of the beholder?

131 posted on 07/22/2014 4:57:05 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Additionally is that in 1969, Richard Nixon's White House drafted a speech to use if the moon landing was unsuccessful and the astronauts were trapped on the lunar surface.

To: H. R. Haldeman
From: Bill Safire

IN THE EVENT OF MOON DISASTER:

Fate has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace.

These brave men, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, know that there is no hope for their recovery. But they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice.

These two men are laying down their lives in mankind’s most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding.

They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.

In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man.

In ancient days, men looked at stars and saw their heroes in the constellations. In modern times, we do much the same, but our heroes are epic men of flesh and blood.

Others will follow and surely find their way home. Man’s search will not be denied. But these men were the first, and they will remain the foremost in our hearts.

For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know that there is some corner of another world that is forever mankind.

PRIOR TO THE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT:

The president should telephone each of the widows-to-be.

AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT, at the point when NASA ends communications with the men:

A clergyman should adopt the same procedure as a burial at sea, commending their souls to “the deepest of the deep,” concluding with the Lord’s Prayer.

132 posted on 07/22/2014 5:24:30 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

LOL The “no gravity on the moon” crowd may also want to consider that when the astronauts walked on the moon they didn’t just float off the surface like they do in the space station. Although there is less gravity than on earth there certainly is gravity.


133 posted on 07/22/2014 5:36:10 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: daniel1212

There was also, so I’ve heard from good sources, an agreement between NASA and the Apollo astronauts that in the event the Lunar Module was unable to return from the surface, communication would be cut off in the final moments to spare the families. Neil and Buzz were chosen as the first to set foot on the moon partially because it was well known the two had ice in their veins. Remember that time Buzz punched the conspiracy theorist in the face for harassing him? Don’t mess with a fighter pilot. Neil had almost died twice in earlier tests but you’d never know from his reaction at the time.


134 posted on 07/22/2014 6:07:10 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: daniel1212

This photo shows another car that NASA missed that was parked on the set.
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liyebxcork1qhqxuso1_r2_500.jpg


135 posted on 07/22/2014 6:31:14 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Telepathic Intruder
There was also, so I’ve heard from good sources, an agreement between NASA and the Apollo astronauts that in the event the Lunar Module was unable to return from the surface,

Yet conspiracy theorists apparently not only deny the Apollo 11 landing, but all of them!

Neil and Buzz were chosen as the first to set foot on the moon partially because it was well known the two had ice in their veins.

And i think the most profound example of their ability, and that of Ground Control - and above all that of God's grace to a nation that yet feared Him much more than now - was the Apollos 13 mission. As the nation prayed man did was no computer could do.

And then there was another mission that was almost aborted when lightening knock out the main systems, and one controller remembered this had happened once before during trials, and know what switch to hit to restore it, moments b4 abort. But the most inspiring moment was..

It was a simpler time — an era when the hearts of Americans were stirred as they heard the voices of their nation's astronauts reading Scripture to the world from outer space. On December 23 of this year one of those astronauts, James Lovell, Command Module pilot of Apollo 8, recalled that moment on Christmas Eve 1968 when he, Commander Frank Borman, and Lunar Module pilot Bill Anders took turns reciting the first 10 verses of Genesis 1, the account of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.

On that day 45 years ago, Lovell, now 85, joined Borman, also now 85, and Anders, now 80, to become the first humans to orbit the moon. And as an estimated one billion people watched on television — the largest single TV audience in history at that time — the trio took a few moments to humbly acknowledge God as the Creator.

The Associated Press reported that to commemorate the event, Lovell joined local high school students and a parent at the museum, with each taking turns reading a few verses from Genesis. Illinois Governor Pat Quinn hosted the event, “calling the broadcast an uplifting message that the country needed in 1968 and one that is still applicable today,” reported AP.

“Lovell said at the time the astronauts weren’t sure who would be listening and how the broadcast would be taken,” the AP account continued,” recalling that the now iconic “Earthrise” photo (shown above) was taken by Frank Borman that same day, an image that served to reenforce the powerful truth of the Scripture the three men read to the world below.

The ACLU of today would likely have sued NASA to ban any such mention of God and to recall the astronauts, as well the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft for containing a discriminatory "heteronormative" depiction:

Jump to: navigation, search
The illustration on the Pioneer plaque

136 posted on 07/22/2014 8:14:50 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: CynicalBear
LOL The “no gravity on the moon” crowd may also want to consider that when the astronauts walked on the moon they didn’t just float off the surface like they do in the space station

Oh, that is why they say it was in Arizona. They had wires enabling them to jump like they did!

137 posted on 07/22/2014 8:16:38 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: minnesota_bound
This photo shows another car that NASA missed that was parked on the set.

That also was missed by the NASA editors!

138 posted on 07/22/2014 8:20:34 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I watched the Apollo 11 episode from "The Earth to the Moon" last night. Those astronauts all had the "right stuff". They knew the dangers they faced, and they welcomed the challenge.

President Eisenhower got it exactly right when he wanted fighter/test pilots for the astronaut program.

139 posted on 07/22/2014 8:25:50 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: moose07
“Now in those days there where Giants upon the Earth....”

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." (Genesis 6:4)

No doubt here, but as regards archeological evidence, there are so many hoaxes or undocumented claims of discoveries of fossils that it is hard for any documented finds to have credibility.

You have such bogus claims as that Russian scientists found 6 giant human skeletons while excavating a site in western Iran, etc.

This site - which i doubt would come up in Google searches - has many (claimed) newspaper images of reports of finds of giants: http://chronologiesbookofgiants.blogspot.ca/ But takes sifting.

Then there is the WP article on the Giant of Castelnau, which was a fossil bone discovery which may represent one of the largest humans known to have existed. The bones, found in a Bronze Age burial tumulus, date back to the Neolithic period and consisted of a humerus, tibia, and femoral mid-shaft. The scientist who made the discovery in 1890 estimated from the bone size that the human may have been over three meters [ 9+'] tall.

The bones were discovered by the anthropologist Georges Vacher de Lapouge at the Bronze Age cemetery of Castelnau-le-Lez, France in the winter of 1890. His findings were published in the journal La Nature, Vol. 18, 1890 Issue 888.[1][2] The height of the individual was estimated at about 3.5 m (11 ft 6 in) according to de Lapouge, and the bones were dated to the Neolithic period, since they were found at the very bottom of the Bronze Age burial tumulus. The journal includes a photo engraving of what was identified as the humerus, tibia, and femoral mid-shaft of the giant compared to a normal size humerus in the center.

Writing in the journal La Nature, de Lapouge describes the bones in detail: "I think it unnecessary to note that these bones are undeniably human, despite their enormous size.... The first is the middle part of the shaft of a femur, 14 cm length, almost cylindrical in shape, and the circumference of the bone is 16 cm.... The second piece is the middle and upper part of the shaft of a tibia.... The circumference is 13 cm at the nutrient foramen.... the length of fragment is 26 cm.... The third, very singular, was regarded by good anatomists as the lower part of a humerus.... The volumes of the bones were more than double the normal pieces to which they correspond. Judging by the usual intervals of anatomical points, they also involve lengths almost double.... The subject would have been a likely size of 3m, 50."[1]

The bones of the Castelnau giant were studied at the University of Montpellier and examined by M. Sabatier, professor of Zoology, at the University of Montpellier, and M. Delage, professor of paleontology at the University of Montpellier, in addition to other anatomists. In 1892 the bones were carefully studied by Dr. Paul Louis André Kiener, professor of pathological anatomy at Montpellier School of Medicine, for which he admitted they represented a "very tall race", but nevertheless found them abnormal in dimensions and apparently of "morbid growth."[3][4]

It is of some interest that in 1894, press accounts mentioned a further discovery of bones of human giants unearthed at a prehistoric cemetery at Montpellier, France (5 km Southwest of Castelnau) while workers were excavating a water works reservoir. Skulls "28, 31, and 32 inches in circumference" were reported alongside other bones of gigantic proportions which indicated they belonged to a race of men "between 10 and 15 feet in height." The bones were reportedly sent to the Paris Academy for further study.[5][6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_of_Castelnau

140 posted on 07/22/2014 9:27:38 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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