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20 Signs The Drought In The Western United States Is Starting To Become Apocalyptic
Prophecy Newswatch ^ | July 17, 2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 07/17/2014 1:12:09 PM PDT by Maudeen

20 Signs The Drought In The Western United States Is Starting To Become Apocalyptic

July 17, 2014 | Michael Snyder

When scientists start using phrases such as "the worst drought" and "as bad as you can imagine" to describe what is going on in the western half of the country, you know that things are bad. Thanks to an epic drought that never seems to end, we are witnessing the beginning of a water crisis that most people never even dreamed was possible in this day and age.

The state of California is getting ready to ban people from watering their lawns and washing their cars, but if this drought persists we will eventually see far more extreme water conservation measures than that. And the fact that nearly half of all of the produce in America comes out of the state of California means that ultimately this drought is going to deeply affect all of us.

Food prices have already been rising at an alarming rate, and the longer this drought goes on the higher they will go. Let us hope and pray that this drought is permanently broken at some point, because otherwise we could very well be entering an era of extreme water rationing, gigantic dust storms and crippling food prices. The following are 20 signs that the epic drought in the western half of the United States is starting to become apocalyptic...

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To: ckilmer

“There is a need for flood control on the Mississipi River for a couple months of the year. And there is a dire need for water in Nevada and Arizona as Lake Meade and Lake Powell dry up.”

No, again.

Increased Mississippi flood control should be based on a combination of more buy outs of those threatened most by Mississippi floods, where possible, converting the bought out land to public green space that can be allowed to flood, and in areas “above river” of very populous areas most susceptible to flooding, we can again use the power of eminent domain to buy and dig into land to create flood channels and, again, floodable public green space. The rest of any Mississippi flood control improvements should be in improvements of the traditional flood control infrastructure, NOT sending Mississippi water out west.

Again, for Arizona and Nevada the Guilf of California is close enough for efficient desalinization plants to serve them, and such plants will be a market for the increased domestic supplies of natural gas (which is what Israel uses) and if we contract with the Israelis we can get the U.S. domestic price of desalinization down as well.

THEN, there will LESS draw on the Colorado for its dwindling supply, which has dwindled because of lower precipitation rates on the western side of the Rockies.

And who ever told people living in deserts that everyone else had to work to give them water? And who ever told anyone that central California farming should be allowed to suck the land right out from under the valley (Not a mere current problem but a long standing problem, as the image in the link below shows. The measure on the pole shows where the land people stood on was in 1925, 1955, and 1977 - and it has continued dropping ever since). That is not a result of recent droughts, it is a result of human demands humongously greaster than natural supplies. Only west coast desalization on a large scale can help mitigate it, without needing or affecting anyone elses natural supplies.

Lastly, water rates need to go drastically up across the west, so that water efficiency there is improved by everyone’s need to get their own water costs down, and I admit that the “right” prices will also discourage some of the population growth in the southwest as well, until desalinization can get ramped up a lot. The price mechanism works much better then rationing or draconian local dictates about supply.

http://ca.water.usgs.gov/projects/central-valley/land-subsidence-monitoring-network.html


161 posted on 07/19/2014 9:38:56 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: ckilmer

The potential dynamics you mention are extremely interesting. Thanks again!


162 posted on 07/19/2014 10:52:34 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Pelham

A friend of mine lives near Carlsbad. They were talking about flooding not too long ago.


163 posted on 07/19/2014 10:58:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

(Actually, I’d really like to siphon the money for Moonbeam’s monumentally-absurd choo-choo into any water project, ASAP. His dad oversaw much infrastructure development as governor, so pipsqueak kid wants an enduring legacy, too. “The Moonbeam Express.”)
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Last time I lived in California was when Pat Brown was governor. California still knew something about water projects. They hadn’t yet become part of some ancient Martian civilization. Still, I must say that with all the California do gooder billionaires — I’m puzzled that none have thought to put any time effort and money into solving California’s very solvable water problems. Bill Gates up in Washington has seen fit to buy some water companies but that’s about it.

Practically:
a) what is the likelihood that this ever gets built?
The stuff will all be built when three things come together. It looks more likely that all three will come together.

1.) A disaster to motivate people.

1.) The disaster
The model for this is the Hoover dam. The Hoover dam was originally conceived of as a flood control solution to the great colorado River flood of 1905 that created the Salton Sea. Only later did the Hoover Dam include a role as a provider of water and power. In 1919, the initial cost estimates for the dam were completed. In 1924, the preliminary designs were completed. The contract to construct the Dam was awarded in 1931. The dam was completed in 1936.

This narrative — 1905-1936 — puts about 30 years between the 1905 disaster and completion of the dam in 1936. That’s how long it will likely take for all the stuff I talk about to be done.

But first we need a real disaster. It looks like the drought may do it. The metric there is likely the Hoover dam. I always watch the dam levels there. Dam levels have been falling fairly steadily for about a decade. The droughts can go on for many decades. The first big hit will come when the water falls too low to support the electrical generation plants. That’s likely part of the reason you’re seeing solar power plants sprout up all over Arizona and southern Nevada. That power will be needed when the electric turbines in the dam can’t spin. While its as of now unlikely that the dams will completely dry up. Its currently very likely that the water levels on the dam will fall too low for power generation. But if the rains don’t come in sufficient quantities then of course water becomes the issue. That’s the disaster that will provoke the big solution. Its the come to Jesus moment.

We have not reached the catastrophe. The southwest/california droughts are problems but they are not yet catastrophes. The patches and band aids so far have been sufficient to mitigate the problems. The patches and band aids in this case are the authorities efforts to mitigate the problem by steadily squeezing down water use.

So we’re talking about 30 years after the disaster which hasn’t happened yet but seems ever more likely in the next decade.

2.) Big scientific and technological gains.
Its important to understand that between 1905 and 1936 an enormous technological revolution occurred. The Hoover dam could not have been built when the disaster occurred in 1905.

imho the three big technological gains on the scale of technological gains between 1905-1931 will be a.) lftr thorium reactors which cut the cost of electricity to 1/4-1/10 the cost of current lowest cost coal. b.) Printed pipelines that can extrude pipelines directly from the soil through which they pass. c.) versatile and durable and cheap semipermeable membranes that allow water and keep out salt at room temperature and pressure.

I think all three of these will happen in the next 15-20 years.

3.) The kind of expansionary vision that comes with the creation of great new wealth—which in turn comes as a result of large scientific and technological gains.

The result of collapsing the cost of energy will be a fantastic world wide explosion of wealth. That’s going to happen in three stages. First the fracking revolution will make the USA energy independent by 2019. This will do stuff like cause the federal budget to balance and strengthen the dollar. But the cost of oil will remain high. After 2020, natural gas trains trucks and buses and electric cars will slowly and then more quickly drain away demand for oil and therefor force the price of oil down. Lower gas prices always cause an big rise in wealth. What creates a whole new technological era however that expands the vision of the nation will be lftr thorium reactors. These will collapse the cost of energy across the board. This will release the kind of surplus wealth that will enable space colonization and turning the deserts green. This will come in maybe 20 years.

Once again, its important to understand that there was in the USA a fantastic explosion of wealth between 1905-1931 like has not been seen since maybe the 1950-60’s. But even the 50’s-60’s pale in comparison to the earlier explosion. A closer parallel would be what’s happened to the Chinese over the last 30 years. The fantastic increase of Chinese wealth and power has caused them to put up water projects all over the world.

That will happen to the USA again in a giant pulse in another decade or two.


164 posted on 07/19/2014 9:22:41 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: cuban leaf

I can’t imagine why. The city of Carlsbad has issued a drought declaration and the only flood there in recent years was back in 2010.


165 posted on 07/19/2014 10:26:35 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: ckilmer
Thanks for educating me--you're very generous with your time.

It will be fascinating to watch!

166 posted on 07/20/2014 8:33:25 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: thackney

Yet wile all of this drought stuff is determined to be apocalyptic, the state water board wants to increase drainage of Lake McClure to assist salmon reach the ocean. Fish and any other animal the EPA can find is more important to state agencies than people. People are unemployed, food prices are sky rocketing, land is laid barren, cities are running (or have run) out of water just so in CA we can keep more water for the fish\. You need to understand just how important you are in scheme of things. Democrats was your vote then just go away.


167 posted on 07/20/2014 11:56:03 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: b4its2late

Bush’s fault line is bigger than the San Andreas or the New Madrid.


168 posted on 09/06/2014 10:50:47 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: cuban leaf
If every house in the southwest saved its rainwater off the roof, this problem would not exist.

Not possible in many states, as AZ, CO, OR, CA, NV, MEXICO come to mind. One has to deal with centuries old 'water rights' down river, down the watershed from persons/municipalities owning those rights. Water has been a point of serious contention in the West for centuries.

One cannot even capture water off their downspouts, establish a cistern, nor establish a water retention pond. In reality every drop of water is spoken for.

LOL...in MD, they even tax the rain runoff from your property (relating to storm sewer costs).

169 posted on 09/06/2014 11:45:37 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough...the Low Information President (LIP) goes golfing)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

I hear some states made it illegal to collect your own rainwater


170 posted on 09/06/2014 11:46:17 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
If every house in the southwest saved its rainwater off the roof, this problem would not exist.

cool html there


171 posted on 09/06/2014 11:49:15 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

One cannot even capture water off their downspouts, establish a cistern, nor establish a water retention pond. In reality every drop of water is spoken for.


This is one reason I moved from Seattle to central KY. I have two streams on my property. :-P


172 posted on 09/06/2014 3:11:41 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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