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1 posted on 07/12/2014 4:11:32 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

Would that be GMO gluten or non-GMO gluten?


2 posted on 07/12/2014 4:17:10 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: Renfield

So, red meat, dairy, sugar, corn, rice, and now wheat are certified by “experts” to be bad for me.


3 posted on 07/12/2014 4:18:24 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: Renfield

All horse poop.
ANY carbohydrates are eventual fat cell fillers.
Hispanics have a large propensity for obesity and diabetes. They eat very little wheat, but consume large amounts of corn tortillas.
Almost everything they eat is wrapped in a tortilla.
Dr. Belly Fat’s research was probably funded by the corn lobby.


7 posted on 07/12/2014 4:27:50 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Renfield
What about the food pyramid that the experts have been promoting since I was in grade school?

We should be able to sue these so called scientists for all the harm they do with their brain dead ideas.

At a minimum they should have to disclose if their "research" is being funded by someone who has a financial interest in the outcome of their results.

8 posted on 07/12/2014 4:32:08 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Renfield

Oh noes.

CONFIRMED: Food Makes You GAIN Weight.


9 posted on 07/12/2014 4:34:47 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Renfield

How long did the mice live?


10 posted on 07/12/2014 4:35:47 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Renfield

This research neglects a lot of extremely important variables, namely the bacteria in the intestinal flora.

(For a quick refresher, biological classification has a hierarchy of eight major ranks. From most encompassing to most specific, they are Domain, Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus and Species.)

For example, in the intestinal flora dwells a microorganism that looks like a bacteria, but it actually closer to humans than it is to bacteria. It belongs in a different *Domain* from bacteria, called Archaea. It is called Methanobrevibacter smithii, and it is about the only Archaea in our bodies that we know of.

However, it clearly affects human calorie harvest and body fat indirectly, by strongly improving the efficiency of bacterial digestion of dietary polysaccharides.

Simply put, bacteria digest food, which makes its nutrition more available to the body. In doing so they produce hydrogen gas which limits their action. M. smithii consumes hydrogen gas and converts it to methane, which allows the bacteria to more fully digest food, increasing the body’s calorie harvest.

And this is just one microorganism that influences our weight.

At the phylum level, there is a balance in our digestive flora between the phylum of Firmicutes bacteria and the phylum of Bacteroidetes bacteria. Firmicutes are very good at digesting food, making it much more nutritious when they dominate the balance. Bacteroidetes are less efficient, so we get less nutrition when they dominate.

That is, more Firmicutes than Bacteroidetes, and you will likely gain weight. Change the balance, and you will likely lose weight. Most “probiotic” bacteria are Firmicutes. Bacteroidetes are anaerobic, so you likely cannot get them in a supplement.

Another phylum, called Verrucomicrobia, gives us a single bacteria associated with weight loss. Called Akkermansia muciniphila, it lives in and consumes the mucus of the large intestine, but it causes it to thicken, which helps prevent bad bacteria and their toxins from entering the blood stream through the bowels. This helps reduce the inflammation that leads to weight gain.

At the Genus level, an entire genus of common digestive bacteria, called Enterobacter (Phylum: Proteobacteria), are definitely associated with weight gain. So much so that in obese people, it becomes the dominant bacteria in the flora.

Even viruses can get into the act. Human adenovirus 36 (HAdV-36) or Ad-36 or Adv36 is one of 52 types of adenoviruses known to infect humans. AD-36 is the only human adenovirus that has been linked with human obesity, present in 30% of obese humans and 11% of non-obese humans.

You have to admit that just these are a LOT of variables that should be considered in a study like this one about wheat gluten.

For example, the genus of bacteria that degrade gluten is called Rothia, in the family Micrococcaceae. Researchers noted that: “While the human digestive enzyme system lacks the capacity to cleave immunogenic gluten, such activities are naturally present in the oral microbial enzyme repertoire. The identified bacteria may be exploited for physiologic degradation of harmful gluten peptides.”


14 posted on 07/12/2014 4:51:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Renfield

Yes, wheat is poison. Bill O’Reilly said so. No wonder all the cultures that ever grew wheat have died out. (Sarcasm, for you food nuts)


16 posted on 07/12/2014 5:26:50 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Renfield

I have almost totally removed wheat from my diet. I have not lost a pound, I have had some other improvements but no weight loss.


19 posted on 07/12/2014 5:53:52 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Renfield
New research confirms

Hardly. This is a study released December 17, 2012, conducted by Departamento de Alimentos, Faculdade de Farmácia, Instituto de Ciências Biológicas, Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais, Belo Horizonte, MG, in Brazil.

Personally, I replaced wheat with quinoa as a protein source for a month. Everything else being equal in both nutrition and exercise, I gained seven pounds. I returned to wheat and that weight came off.

20 posted on 07/12/2014 6:22:04 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Renfield
Vladimir Gluten...


21 posted on 07/12/2014 6:27:22 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Renfield

I get headaches from most supermarkets bought bread. The ones I eat have no high fructose corn syrup or msg but there is something in them or more likely probably not labeled correctly as I know the before mention ingredients which do affect me are known by different names.

I can buy bread at a bakery like Abby’s http://www.abbysmillstone.com/ and their bread has no after effect so I figure it is some sort of preservative in the bread at supermarkets. The bakery bread does not last as long before spoiling.

Bread I eat from the supermarket that least affects me: Miltons
http://www.miltonsbaking.com/product-detail/multi-grain
BTW their whole grain crackers are really good.

Anyone have any idea what chemical/ingredients to avoid?


27 posted on 07/12/2014 7:04:41 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Renfield

I did my own study and found that eating too much food makes you obese....


28 posted on 07/12/2014 7:11:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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I always order extra gluten, is it just me?


31 posted on 07/12/2014 8:59:19 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Renfield

Heavy stuff.

If this goes viral, there will be a lot of VERY MAD wheat growers.


32 posted on 07/12/2014 9:07:24 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Renfield; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Soybeans in the diet promote both weight gain and the supposed gluten allergy.


39 posted on 07/15/2014 4:26:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield

1. I am not a mouse
2. Wheat fed the world for millennium going back to the Stone Age
3. Gluten sensitivity doesn’t exist
4. Our lack of activity not our diets are the culprit


40 posted on 07/15/2014 8:51:50 AM PDT by dervish ("We use missiles to protect our people. They use people to protect their missiles")
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To: Renfield

ALL calories add to weight gain. Morons.


41 posted on 07/15/2014 9:09:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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