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The Universe Shouldn't Be Here, According to Higgs Physics
Live Science ^ | 06/23/2014 | Tia Ghose

Posted on 07/03/2014 11:34:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The universe shouldn't exist — at least according to a new theory.

Modeling of conditions soon after the Big Bang suggests the universe should have collapsed just microseconds after its explosive birth, the new study suggests.

"During the early universe, we expected cosmic inflation — this is a rapid expansion of the universe right after the Big Bang," said study co-author Robert Hogan, a doctoral candidate in physics at King's College in London. "This expansion causes lots of stuff to shake around, and if we shake it too much, we could go into this new energy space, which could cause the universe to collapse."

Physicists draw that conclusion from a model that accounts for the properties of the newly discovered Higgs boson particle, which is thought to explain how other particles get their mass; faint traces of gravitational waves formed at the universe's origin also inform the conclusion.

Of course, there must be something missing from these calculations.

"We are here talking about it," Hogan told Live Science. "That means we have to extend our theories to explain why this didn't happen."

Bang!

One possible explanation holds that during the fiery flash after the primordial Big Bang explosion, matter raced outward at breakneck speeds in a process known as cosmic inflation. This bent and squeezed space-time, creating ripples known as gravitational waves that also twisted the radiation that passed through the universe, Hogan said.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: bigbang; higgsboson; universe
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To: SeekAndFind
They have to find the real god particle, Higgs wasn't it.

21 posted on 07/03/2014 12:24:14 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: SeekAndFind
The universe shouldn't exist

I knew it! This weird lifetime I've experienced has all been an illusion and I don't really exist.

Which explains the mail I receive addressed to "occupant".....

22 posted on 07/03/2014 12:28:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: SeekAndFind
But, but 97% of scientists believe in the Big Bang!
23 posted on 07/03/2014 12:36:14 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: SeekAndFind

What if God instead of creating a universe, created instead a computer simulation of one, Let there be light was the power switch being turned on or the program starting up and compiling was the big bang....

I could write for a stoner magazine, LOL


24 posted on 07/03/2014 12:41:25 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wait. Let me get this straight:

I'm a scientist. I have a new theory that says the universe shouldn't exist.

But it does exist.

Therefore, the my theory proves that the universe is wrong.

What am I missing?

25 posted on 07/03/2014 12:41:54 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Phillyred

“Seems like the stuff these people believe takes more faith than simply acknowledging there is a Creator.”

Yup. There’s a book on that: “I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist” by Geisler & Turek. (It’s basic apologetics for the layman.)


26 posted on 07/03/2014 12:42:43 PM PDT by shoe212 (One of the few Conservative professors in the Midwest.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought it was settled science that we were here.


27 posted on 07/03/2014 12:44:23 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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Big Bang Theory?


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28 posted on 07/03/2014 12:52:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

LOL!!! But soooo true.


29 posted on 07/03/2014 1:04:50 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: I want the USA back

Actually they do see that, and you would have seen they see that had you bother to spend 2 second reading instead of jumping in using your preconceived notions to call other people stupid.


30 posted on 07/03/2014 1:11:22 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: deweyfrank
Maybe it was God.

Science, tying itself in knots, to explain the divine, they cannot explain.
31 posted on 07/03/2014 1:49:06 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Moonman62
God has provided abundant evidence that when it comes to the physical universe he wanted it to be understandable, predictable, and he refrained from magic.

Sorry, this God-loving / God-fearing semiconductor designer can tell you...

...that while God may have wanted His physical creation understandable to a point (thanks, God, for the limited speed of light, seriously!)...

...it is categorically not predictable (quantum dynamics)...

...and when considering things like the observer effect and quantum entanglement, it pretty darn close to "magic"!

32 posted on 07/03/2014 1:54:04 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: 98ZJ USMC
The Universe Shouldn't Be Here

It isn't.

Our Mind Represents the World (and in fact only Senses a small fraction of Reality) and thus the World we see is an Illusion (Maya) and this Ignorance of the True Nature of Reality is Avidya.

33 posted on 07/03/2014 1:59:56 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Yossarian
...it is categorically not predictable (quantum dynamics)...

Quantum dynamics is highly predictable, otherwise you wouldn't have a job. As one time Freeper and scientist, Physicist used to say, quantum physics is the most precise science we have.

34 posted on 07/03/2014 2:00:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Quantum dynamics is highly predictable, otherwise you wouldn't have a job. As one time Freeper and scientist, Physicist used to say, quantum physics is the most precise science we have.

I can calculate the probability of a single event happening, but I can't predict the results of a single event. This becomes quite the real problem when devices only have but a handful of electrons to do their work with.

35 posted on 07/03/2014 2:09:22 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: SeekAndFind
This bent and squeezed space-time, creating ripples known as gravitational waves that also twisted the radiation that passed through the universe, Hogan said.

That makes no sense, scientific or otherwise...

How can there have been "radiation that passed through the universe"? Where did that radiation from from? Was it external from the universe? If so, where did the external radiation come from?


36 posted on 07/03/2014 2:20:16 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to use the Three Amigo’s (Hansen, Mann & Jones) Global Warming computer model. Just enter the desired result and the data necessary to arrive at that result will be generated ... it works every time .....


37 posted on 07/03/2014 2:20:25 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
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To: Yossarian

Scientists have been doing experiments with single electrons and photons for a long time now. The results are highly predictable. They do use probability, but that is also a branch of mathematics, and I don’t know of any competent scientist or mathematician who would equate it with the supernatural or magic.


38 posted on 07/03/2014 2:49:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Scientists have been doing experiments with single electorons and photons for a long time now. The results are highly predictable.

When done time after time, the aggregate of the results follow probability very closely. A SINGLE EVENT IS NOT PREDICTABLE.

I don’t know of any competent scientist or mathematician who would equate it with the supernatural or magic.

How about this guy?

He famously referred to quantum entanglement as “spukhafte Fernwirkung”, translated as "spooky action at a distance".

Here's another freaky occurrence to keep in mind: Observer Effect. Watch this movie to learn more about it.

Hence my comment as "pretty darn close to 'magic'"....

39 posted on 07/03/2014 3:41:13 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian

Is it more accurate to say that quantum particles are guided by the hand of a supernatural being or that they follow the rules of quantum dynamics?


40 posted on 07/03/2014 6:33:12 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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