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Japan's WW II super-submarine found scuttled off Hawaii
cbcnews ^ | Posted: Dec 03, 2013 10:29 AM ET | Thomson Reuters

Posted on 12/03/2013 8:27:28 PM PST by Utilizer

Scientists plumbing the Pacific Ocean off the Hawaii coast have discovered a Second World War era Japanese submarine, a technological marvel that had been preparing to attack the Panama Canal before being scuttled by U.S. forces.

The 122-metre "Sen-Toku" class vessel — among the largest pre-nuclear submarines ever built — was found in August off the southwest coast of Oahu and had been missing since 1946, scientists at the University of Hawaii at Manoa said.

The I-400 and its sister ship, the I-401, which was found off Oahu in 2005, were able to travel one and a half times around the world without refuelling and could hold up to three folding-wing bombers that could be launched minutes after resurfacing, the scientists said.

The accidental discovery of the I-400, an aircraft-toting I-400 mega sub, on the rock- and debris-littered ocean floor, some 701 metres beneath the surface, has solved the mystery surrounding a ship long thought to be farther afield.

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U.S. forces sank the submarines and claimed to have no information on their precise location, in an apparent bid to prevent their technology falling into the hands of the Soviet Union, which had demanded the ships be returned to Japan.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Reference
KEYWORDS: hawaii; japan; littleknownhistory; navy; panamacanal; subs; worldwareleven; worldwartwo; wwii
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To: cynwoody

Thanks. Bookmarked for later...


41 posted on 12/03/2013 9:44:40 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Welcome. I found this info truly fascinating. The things you find out you don’t know!


42 posted on 12/03/2013 9:45:56 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Cold Heart

“There was an immense amount of ocean dumping of really neat stuff after the war was over.”

They bulldozed aircraft into piles on Pacific islands and pushed new aircraft off the decks of carriers, rather than bring them back. Those that were stateside were declared surplus and sold. Corsairs, Mustangs, B-17s, B-25s, etc.


43 posted on 12/03/2013 9:49:25 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Utilizer

Oh, and forgot to mention: the term coined for that style back then was “Baggies”. Or “Baggys”, depending on personal preference. I have seen it spelled both ways in newspapers, back when newspapers still had some respect and editors that actually did more than select articles -and proofreaders to correct blatant errors.


44 posted on 12/03/2013 9:52:24 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: GeronL

I was thinking maybe they just opened the seacocks and let in water, but nooooo....


45 posted on 12/03/2013 9:55:08 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

Why not test your torpedoes while you are at it...


46 posted on 12/03/2013 10:02:46 PM PST by mwilli20 (BO. Making communists proud all over the world.)
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To: mwilli20

“Why not test your torpedoes while you are at it...”

Yeah, I understand that logic, but I always hope something that cool might still be mostly intact.


47 posted on 12/03/2013 10:15:19 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

I dream of P-51 Mustangs and Avengers and Hurricanes free for the asking!


48 posted on 12/03/2013 10:28:40 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

...though Corsairs might be nice as well.


49 posted on 12/03/2013 10:29:53 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

“I dream of P-51 Mustangs and Avengers and Hurricanes free for the asking!”

This one is more like ‘if you have to ask, you can’t afford it’ :

http://www.globalair.com/aircraft_for_sale/Warbird_Aircraft/North_American/Mustang__P-51_for_sale_64084.html


50 posted on 12/03/2013 10:32:49 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

Meanwhile...off an island nation on the otherside of the world:

http://uboat.net/fates/deadlight_hist.htm


51 posted on 12/04/2013 1:51:13 AM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow)
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To: PLMerite
Just in 2007 the air force contracted for scraping 120 jet trainers in texas, that were used by the airforce academy cadets. they had 2 accidents and decided the craft were unsafe for training, all had to be certified totally destroyed and unusable along with sheds.
52 posted on 12/04/2013 5:58:06 AM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Ping for possible interest.


53 posted on 12/04/2013 12:00:02 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Utilizer

I was always very partial to the Corsair.


54 posted on 12/04/2013 12:00:27 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: mylife

how does a catapult work on a diesel electric boat?


55 posted on 12/04/2013 12:01:55 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: PLMerite

Never priced any of that vintage stuff. Seeing that one showed me that I was 50% off and low.

Saw some nice 51s and other stuff of the same era at EAA. The 51s were usually running in the morning.


56 posted on 12/04/2013 12:04:41 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The Navy sank it with a torpedo hit in 1946. Does an intentional sinking of a vessel you possess count as a scuttle?

If it's under your control, and you then deliberately sink it, it's a scuttle.

57 posted on 12/04/2013 12:06:11 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
These days, of course, these goodies generally can’t be integrated into the victor’s command/control/support systems and are destroyed or possibly sold/given to others.

That's because we have, by world standards, an unlimited procurement budget. For decades, the Israelis have reused Soviet equipment captured from the Arabs. North Vietnam kept RVN equipment captured after Saigon's collapse in operation for a couple of decades.

58 posted on 12/04/2013 12:20:58 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Cold Heart
There was an immense amount of ocean dumping of really neat stuff after the war was over.

My father was the machine shop NCOIC for an engineer regiment on Okinawa at the end of the war. MacArthur had the regiment supplied with entirely new heavy equipment, machine tools and all the rest, with the idea that the regiment was going to Japan with him.

That plan was dropped because the army sent the regiment home, instead. They left all of the brand new hardware behind on Okinawa to rust. Some of it was never even unpacked from the shipping crates.

59 posted on 12/04/2013 12:31:11 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: mylife

I have that one.


60 posted on 12/04/2013 1:03:17 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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