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No, You're Probably Not Smarter Than an Average 1912 8th Grader
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Posted on 10/20/2013 4:10:48 PM PDT by SamAdams76

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To: SamAdams76

But, where is the part about Susie having two mommies??


21 posted on 10/20/2013 4:53:37 PM PDT by Isabel2010
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To: trubolotta
Second, the world doesn’t revolve around physics and math.

Oh, the irony!

... "The truth that great men struggled for, we now breathe cheaply in the common air."

22 posted on 10/20/2013 4:55:43 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Olog-hai

There are several methods for calculating pie. You are only identifying the definition of pi, not the methods for its calculation.

My knowledge of the methods to calculate pi does not make knowledgeable about various forms of government and nor can they be derived and argued purely by reason. A little history might be helpful.


23 posted on 10/20/2013 4:58:28 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta

Pie aren’t square, it’s round!


24 posted on 10/20/2013 4:59:38 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: driftdiver
smart and educated are not the same thing.

Smart is to educated as information is to knowledge. There are lots of smart people around, and few educated.

25 posted on 10/20/2013 5:01:30 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: SamAdams76
Truthfully I could have passed this test in 8th grade. If you take away some of the antiquated terms, and if some of the history was stuff that was studied in class. Now, probably only 40 to 50% of kids could pass it today, but remember that probably less than that percentage passed on to high school in the early 1900’s anyway
26 posted on 10/20/2013 5:02:48 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: SamAdams76
The real difference:

Teachers back then didn't spend 80% of the school day trying to indoctrinate their students in liberal nonsense.

Funny how much more you can teach when you concentrate on what kids should actually be learning to have a better life as opposed to trying to screw-up their thinking so they will vote democrap.

27 posted on 10/20/2013 5:05:14 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: sharkhawk

I would like to see a list of the things an 8th grader today knows that one in 1913 would have no idea about.

Most 8th graders have at least a limited knowledge of DNA for example but not even the most highly educated person in the world would have known anything about it at that time.

The amount of knowledge in the in the world has increased exponentially since the early 20th century but the human ability memorize and recall information has not increased. That means there will be items that are replaced in the cannon of essential knowledge.

What I said above in no way implies that public schools today are doing a good job. Just that comparing curriculum outcomes from different times is sort of a useless exercise.


28 posted on 10/20/2013 5:12:49 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: SamAdams76
I have a whole series of books from the early 1900's for the 4th grade cirriculum. They are written at a college level of today.

We are a country of time diminished morons of prior greatness..

29 posted on 10/20/2013 5:34:30 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Olog-hai; trubolotta

let’s see....4-4/3+4/5-4/7+4/9...converges very slowly.

3+4/(2x3x4)-4/(4x5x6)+4/(6x7x8)... converges more quickly.


30 posted on 10/20/2013 5:36:31 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Fai Mao

I would guess that most 8th graders knowledge of DNA is virtually useless in any practical application, but I would agree they should have some idea of what it is, what it does and why it is important.

One point the article made was that children were previously much better versed in government, the various forms and the merits and liabilities of each form. Then you could read comments at DU or Kos and see just how far we have sunk.

I do understand your point about comparing then to now, but certain philosophical knowledge remains indispensable to making good decisions. I think that is part of what has been lost.


31 posted on 10/20/2013 5:37:31 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: SamAdams76

Intelligence and knowledge is so “outdated” according to this article


32 posted on 10/20/2013 5:43:45 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: scrabblehack

Good illustration and an exercise in thinking. My guess is Einstein at least memorized pi to 4 decimal places and if he needed more precision, he had tables or could derive an answer by reason.


33 posted on 10/20/2013 5:46:08 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: SamAdams76

These tests “proving” that 8th graders were smarter than today’s kids don’t take into account maybe only 10% to 15% of all prospective students actually finished the 8th grade. Remember at that time most kids were still on the farm helping out. In short, most children of 8th grade age at that time could not pass that test. And we don’t know how many of the small percentage of kids who actually took the test passed it. Whenever somebody posts stories like this about supposedly all the children from that era were great students, my bs detector starts making a loud noise.


34 posted on 10/20/2013 5:55:01 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: SamAdams76

they weren’t drinking fluoride all day


35 posted on 10/20/2013 5:57:37 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K
they weren’t drinking fluoride all day

and had a zillion times more dental cavaties that children of today.....please!!!

36 posted on 10/20/2013 6:21:52 PM PDT by terycarl (Pope elected)
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To: SamAdams76

With all respect, how uniform was said education applied? There is something to be said about standardization. Was the teacher qualified or the local drunk? So many variables...


37 posted on 10/20/2013 6:22:20 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Fai Mao

“I would like to see a list of the things an 8th grader today knows that one in 1913 would have no idea about.”

Good point, esp. in science. My kid took bio in HS that I had taken in College, and I went to a very excellent HS. My parents knew pretty much nothing about science, as my father once said to me: they studied Latin & Greek, not physics and chemistry.


38 posted on 10/20/2013 6:25:42 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Bigg Red

mark


39 posted on 10/20/2013 6:28:34 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: SamAdams76

Don’t be surprised. What sound like bizarre questions today were *current events* back then, so the students would have had a lot of exposure to them, in class and outside of class in the newspapers.

For example, The Kingdom of Montenegro was proclaimed by Prince Nicholas I on 28 August 1910, just two years before this test. The new King of Montenegro had declared several “progressive” reforms, so was very popular among progressives in the US, and was thus in the news.

Likewise, did it impress anyone why in the world they would care about a trip from England to Manila?

Because a very similar route mattered a lot during the Spanish-American War of 1898 followed shortly thereafter by the Philippine Insurrection. This route would have been in the news a lot, and teachers would talk about it at length.


40 posted on 10/20/2013 6:29:48 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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